49ers Post-Mortem: Robert Saleh Leaves for the Titans, 2026 Offseason Game Plan, Super Bowl 60 Predictions | We Want Winners

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rod and I are back here after the NFC and AMC title games were held today, but there was a lot of 49ers news as well this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to see the postmortem press conferences with Kyle Shanahan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was news with the coaching staff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Rod, let's, well, we'll talk about the

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to give you credit because people can go back a few shows, you predicted Salah to the Titans as being maybe one of the most attractive places that he would want to go to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about the move, Salah going to Tennessee and Coach and Cam Ward?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, like you mentioned, I thought back in December that this was one of the best jobs on the market for him before this and this was obviously before It's called to more became open and then

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[SPEAKER_01]: But buffalo became open.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I really didn't see him being Candidates reading one of those jobs because, you know, this is a relationship business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as we've seen already with Baltimore, they went with mentor who was there before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all indications look like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, whoever's going to be in Buffalo is going to be somebody who already has an established relationship with Josh Allen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, that being said, when you look at Tennessee, the combination of having whatever you feel about can award, they have a quarter back in place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've got a hundred million dollars in cash space.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dave got a top four draft pick and they plan the AOC South, which I believe is they get their draft and free agency right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They'll be able to compete for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they'll be able to compete for that conference title this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe I just looking at what they have in place right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you look at what he did here in San Francisco this year, I think he makes that defense they have over there, a top 12 defense right now without any changes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now it's just a matter of chronic, you know, they've got holes like

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he was throwing the UFL guys basically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're offensive lines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stinks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And any corners, which, again, is a, I mean, it's not like you just go out to the corner tree and pick corners, or as we've seen here in San Francisco.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know getting a decent offensive line is it's not I'm not trying to not trying to make it seem like these are simple things to do but I think he's a guy who can go in and change a culture and can there's nobody in that comfort in that

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[SPEAKER_01]: division, the jags, the coats, and the Texans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who do you think the Robert Solomon when he starts his training camp is going to be scared of?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just think it was a very, very good job for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's going to do great things there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the Niners losing Sala is, I mean, he did such a great job this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's gonna be tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what do you think about what it sounds like, which is kind of their idea is just to push, Gus Bradley who they've had and seemingly have had in this position for this very reason to be the new defense coordinator.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been been having this argument back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, what has would have seemed clear to me this offseason?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the last few offseason, but it's highlighted, is that this is a relationship business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sola is the OG for both, I mean, Bradley is the OG for both Sola and Ryan's who was an architect, he didn't run the defense in Seattle, but he was there when it was being created between Quinn and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Carol.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, he was at the ground.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was sitting at the table when it was created.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're not going to get anybody who was more versed in the system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he has relationships here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He knows the staff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He knows the players, which as we've seen, which is what made the talk of people like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jim Schwartz or Rye Flores just didn't make any sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are two guys who you're not going to who Kyle was not handed him a them a playbook and saying, you know, you need to run my system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And while that might seem arrogant, just like when you go back to Wilkes or soreness and what soreness didn't really have any kind of gravitas to say we're running my defense,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It makes more sense for the one guy to come in and learn what's been happening here than it is for the coaching staff to all try to figure out what the hell he wants to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, just a continuity standpoint, that just makes sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you can say like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: several media writers have said that it's lazy continuity is lazy that you go out and you hire the best culture available.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in okay, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in in context, I just believe that fundamentally it does make more sense for the coordinator to, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm in himself to what's been happening here as opposed to

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[SPEAKER_01]: 40 or 50 people, you know, coming under what he has done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just, it just, you know, just, you know, from a operational standpoint, that just makes more sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, from when you look at it that way, you could make a case for Raheem Morris, because he's going to, he runs the same system, Kyle knows him, but again, he doesn't have the necessary, he doesn't have the relationship with the staff and the players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he's willing to come here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess that's something you would have to consider and maybe you just keep the structure the way it is with Bradley being the assistant head coach of defense and more as being the coordinator.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I would think and I guess it's a different scenario because you might believe that you know that was if what we were

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[SPEAKER_01]: what we've seen is true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's saying now that all you get is two strikes in your out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was more as a second job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So theoretically, you know, maybe if you hire him, he's going to be here for the long run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess you will consider him, but again, I just don't think that somebody like Swartz is really a viable candidate for a job like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, as long as, you know, the other important thing is just having sign off from your, your main guys and both of them going to be coming off of injury, Bosa and Warner, as long as those guys are down with things, which I don't imagine they wouldn't be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess the only thing, you know, this is just the NFL in a nutshell, but they have this Rooney rule that

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[SPEAKER_00]: people's just sort of exercise because you have to, in some cases, which kind of makes the rule a little, um, I don't know, it just feels a little insincere the way that it's handled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to, you know, you have to at least interview a minority candidate or some, and so Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan,

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[SPEAKER_00]: guilty of this in the past where he's actually named coordinators without before even interviewing people and go, oh, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have to interview some candidates and it's like, wink, wink, because there's this rule.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, that it just seems like that's what's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gus Bradley's going to move into the role.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not official yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, there's the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Clint Kubiac scenario where it's pretty clear that if Clint Kubiac is not hired as a head coach which he already pulled out of one of the one of the interviews.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he's going to stick around because they're not going to let him go do a lateral move somewhere else like that is not something that they're interested in doing and maybe he will let let him call one play per game or something to just say that it happens but I guess you know that relationship seems like they want it to keep going as well and so yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what's thinking about that watching the game and watching his brother call the place for Seattle tonight, you brought up an interesting point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I make I wonder if somebody would offer him a head coach, an assistant head coach of offense and offense coordinator job if he would be willing to leave if it meant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He could call plays because I met I met play by the way Clint is the Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, but you know, I'm thinking that you know seeing his brother Actually being a play call or which is something that I just don't think is ever gonna happen here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He also called it He also called an excellent game today

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, Clay, again, it's just, it's just, I just don't ever see that being in the car, it's for any office of coordinator, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I don't think that Kyle is going to do like Seriani and some other coaches have done and just give up the office of play called I just, I just, it just seems to me that that's so much a part of who he is that it's like Andy Reed, it's just, if you're going to be a coordinator here,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to mean that you were going, you're not going to play call, you're not going to call plays and it's got to be, it would be frustrating to me if I was in that position.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he hasn't been there that long, so it's not like he's been a long suffer in that position, but if you look around the league and if I'm

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[SPEAKER_01]: click who we act and I see it like Bobby Slowwick is like a play call.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't mind him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's like, it's like, I mean, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, it's one of those other things that I've discussed a lot this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because, you know, we as fans, we really don't know what these dudes do from sat from Monday to Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And most of us don't even have a real understanding when we're watching the games on Sunday,

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[SPEAKER_01]: better than coordinator x.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, other than, you know, we can play the result, but we don't, I can't, you know, I watch every game and I rewatch every game and still can't tell you what makes, you know, oh, is this call here that Ksollum makes that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 98% of the, you know, defense of coordinators, but I don't, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, I don't know what the difference is between play kubiak and Bobby slow it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I saw the offense in Houston and it wasn't great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a lot of playing the result.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have to rely on people like Kyle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and follow guys who know these guys and you know and Kyle has obviously you know say what you want about him everywhere else he has a pretty proven track record of identifying young coaches and

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[SPEAKER_01]: developing them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if he taps you as a coordinate, any kind of coach, like I'm sure like AJ Wright is somebody who we should probably keep our eye on since he's been identified and has been, you know, a quality coordinator coach, I'm sure he is being groomed to go along the same ranks as, you know, a dameco rhyme.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it wouldn't surprise me if in a couple of years we're not

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[SPEAKER_01]: talked about as a coordinator candidate here were somewhere else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess when they were talking about I guess Clay was the one who suggested the Joann Jennings touchdown pass in the

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, in the filly game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, oh, yeah, I just, you know, we had this on the place sheet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I suggested this one and Kyle decided to go for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what though, the one thing and I wish, I'm sure somebody may talk about this because, you know, during this coaching scenario where all these jobs are available and who's getting, you know, interviewed and such, I do wonder like if you're Clay Kubiak,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and is it better for you to become offensive coordinator somewhere, call all the plays, and then the the offense is just so so, or is it better for you to just be under the shield of of Kyle Shanahan?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just having the 49ers gravitas to your resume, does that is that better than then calling place for a bad team?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'd be interested in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it like his clay thinking, well, I want to be a head coach one day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in order to be a head coach, here's the blueprint to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: being the play caller for an NFL offense is like the next step above what I'm doing right now that would be interesting to know from that perspective but All right, so totally I don't know just kind of go to leave you look at Kansas City Doug Peterson and Matt Nagu were both hired away from Kansas City having never called play so that might be the play is just hanging out here and just keep

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just just keep doing what you're doing and let the after glow of Kyle's brilliance just kind of wash off on you and wait for somebody to say, well, we want some of that and get your job that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk about some of the other 49ers I wanted to make a mention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: John Brody, 49ers, very famous court counsel, I think went on the PGA tour or the seniors tour, something was a really good one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He passed away at the age of 90 the other day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As my dad's favorite player of all time, even when I remember, I was a little kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: every little kid goes through this time where they're like, oh, we can actually write letters to players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe they'll send us stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm writing this letter to Joe Montana.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm writing letters to Dwight Clark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course in the letter, you have to say that this player is your favorite player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I used to joke with my kids because, you know, my kids would not just stop at like the one or two players in the Giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, you know, random Atlanta Braves, third baseman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're my favorite player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I would kind of joke with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you don't even like this guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but maybe he'll send me an autograph card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm writing to Joe as writing to Dwight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said in the letter, you're my favorite player and you're my dad's favorite player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And my dad was like, nope, you got to redo that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, why?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, because John Brody's my favorite player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, well, who's John Brody?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, this is Joe Montana.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what are you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it was almost like betrayal to me as a little kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then,

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[SPEAKER_00]: What what I did is I, you know, as much as you could do in the mid to late 80s, I did some research on John Brody is like, who's John Brody guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, of course my dad talks a little bit about who he was, but I would read through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was a big fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: as a little kid of reading through the history of whatever sport I was into.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was reading up on the history of the NFL and the Super Bowl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what I realized is that when the Dallas things were going to the Super Bowl a lot in the 70s, the team that they were always beating was the 49ers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and John Brody was the quarterback who couldn't get over the hump and there was one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember it was a divisional game or an NFC title game, but there was one game where the Niners were cooking them and Dallas comes all the way back in the fourth quarter to score like a bunch of touchdowns to win into then they I think they went to Super Bowl and I would just felt so as I'm reading this I'm just like man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Poor John Brody like he's like on the precipice of going to the Superbowl before Montana and he keeps getting knocked off and so that became kind of like my history with John Brody was just like feeling bad for him because he never got over the hump and he was like my dad's favorite player and and then I get to see Joe Montana play and he's like going to the Superbowl every other year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, just kind of like one of the few last vestiges to the, to the pre 80s teams, you know, who's who's still a really famous famous player did, I can't wish I meant to look this up before the, um, the show, uh, but did he, did he make the Hall of Fame?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, he was inducted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I inducted to the college football Hall of Fame and then the 49ers Hall of Fame, but I don't know if he's in the NFL Hall of Fame.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was looking up his case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not realize until after he passed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He retired as the third leading pastor in NFL history at 31,000 yards when he.

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[SPEAKER_01]: when he retired.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, like you say, he had all of those playoff failures and he was only he was like first team all pro once.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you look at I'm a big fan of the Hall of Fame monitor and I play that game a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He really is he's in a really a trick bag in terms of

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's probably never going to be a hallfamer if it hasn't happened already, it's probably not going to happen now, but his, you know, he's got a real, you know, for his era.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a pretty strong case, but as time has gone on, he's like sandwiched between Kelly and Fakeman in terms of Hall of Fame honorter points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, those two got even no Kelly didn't win any superboats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He went to four, and then, of course, Troy, Troy,

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[SPEAKER_01]: in his wins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's like he's statistically, it's a strong case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Only it's kind of rough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's not many guys in the who have not won a championship with only one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with one only one all pro because quarterback is just a tough position, especially when they're several Brad he's in he's in the kind of when he's so he's a MVP in in 1970 so you know there's stop acting in Bradshaw and you're at the you know the post

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, of Bart Star and, um, and those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, like there was a lot of famous guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why, you know, when my dad said John Brody and I knew the Super Bowl quarterbacks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just so surprised us, because I was like, who's John Brody?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then doing the reading.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, Oh, my gosh, if he, if he would have just flipped one of those games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he would have probably been changed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, would have changed everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he would have been, you know, just as famous as some of those other guys, but, you know, in the narrative of what the game in the 80s, you know, if you did win a Super Bowl in the early 70s,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know that then what the 49ers became changes a little different you know it becomes a little different because you're not the also ran franchise who could never get over the hump they would have gotten over the hump you know before so yeah just a pretty sad you know but 90 years old he you know he made it far away so sort of saying you know really good life over a long life at least yeah alright P. John Brody okay Max Crosby

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[SPEAKER_00]: That it was interesting because I was listening to the 49ers plus minus with Tim Calcami and Matt Barrows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Tim Calcami kept bringing up Max Crossby's name as somebody who would be getable for the 49ers in the off season if they wanted to trade for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wanted to

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[SPEAKER_00]: is that, do you think Max Crosby is worth, because they probably have to deal their one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now their one is gonna be more closer to the end of the first round, but would you think about trying to bring in a veteran past Russia like that via trade over essentially getting another

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would be, I'm just fundamentally against at this point as I've said it this off season as I said it last off season and all people, you know, it's rough when I am quoting and agreeing with Grant Collins, if you look at our roster,

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[SPEAKER_01]: 25 or younger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who you would consider a difference maker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think that you can throw more draft picks at trying to fix the situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With any solution that you have about fixing

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[SPEAKER_01]: a combination of hitting on these drafts and signing free agents.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It can't be giving away as I have come to call them four-year cost control contracts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That has to be

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[SPEAKER_01]: hitting on those has to be part of the rebuilding plan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't be given those away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we have a dirt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have any young quarterstone players yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's none of these got, I mean, the previous rookie class, it's really too soon to tell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I can say from the past two rookie classes, I don't see anybody on the team that I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: excited about giving them a second contract at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you know, somebody like, um, pretty Ricky, he's too, I mean, he's shown in flashes, but I mean, how do we know that

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[SPEAKER_01]: and two years we still aren't talking about well if you can only play if you can only play 14 games he would be great or even worse and a guy who will probably get to at some point Alec Pierce where you get

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[SPEAKER_01]: four years in, and he's had one good year, a contract year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you're trying to decide, do you give him $90 million over four years after just one good season?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you, how do you rate?

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[SPEAKER_01]: that one good season versus the previous three, like, you know, that he's been a guy that's been a blaze in 49er world about signing him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hell, he was two to at will for the past three years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had it and there's no question he had a good season this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, he's in line to make $90 billion over four years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are the 49ers really is that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they going to want to be the ones that finds out if he's closer to two to at will?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or the guys had a thousand yards last year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm willing to be the guinea pig on something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess at this point to answer your question, I'm pretty risk-averse when it comes to how we acquire these players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And everybody that comes up, there's just something wrong with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no doubt that Max Crossby is a good player, but you're talking about pairing him with Bosa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're both coming off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, they're both becoming in to training camp, coming off of postseason surgery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, both the surgery wasn't postseason, but surgery never the less and they're both closer to 30 than they are 25.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, do I want him as a player?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I guess it would depend on how much you would have to trade to get him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that would that would be the question for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it does feel like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they have to like really, really hit a home run with this draft because like you said they're they're so old as a team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had some hits, you know, but in recent drafts, but, you know, some of this is, you know, you can't say that they've had the hits that say the rams have had in their drafts to get to where they are back in the saddle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that is, that is kind of the age old question is, is do you, are we drafting another, we're going to take another shot at Michael Williams type of player who I think some fans kind of thought was going to be this crazy past pressure even though we had talked about what he truly was, you know, even in college and so it's like up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know who who now we got to go next man up who's the next person in the draft you know honestly they have so many other places that they need to find playmakers as well you mentioned pretty ricky Kyle seems to be like oh this this injury nonsense we're not going to talk about this thing but you were saying when ricky was drafted that he was injury prone get the shoulder thing

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you really have to get lucky at this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which leads me to Jennings, what do they do with Joann Jennings?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How what is Joann Jennings' market outside of Santa Clara?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is a team who, you know, maybe had a coach from the 49ers tree who was a big Joann guy, are they going to pay a little extra to get Joann on their team where the 49ers

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[SPEAKER_00]: wouldn't, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we kind of know with the Niners or how the Niners see Joann, I think they really appreciate him, but they don't see him as anybody who is going to be a number one for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he would be a really good

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, number three or number four, but even as a number two, he was a little disappointing this year, um, does he stick around do like do they chase a big time free agent or a trade with a wide receiver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I heard, I heard, I heard Jefferson could be on the mart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would Minnesota let go of that dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then make sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to make any sense at all, but like these are the conversations because you know we've seen big players leave teams that we're like how can you let this guy go, but at some point the relationship with the player and the team you know somehow becomes afraid, but the question just becomes if you are because the Niners are at a little bit of a crossroads, they're kind of like at the same

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[SPEAKER_00]: that the warriors were at in, you know, coming off of losing KD, Steph gets hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They, they're one of the worst teams in the league and they draft, James Wiseman, Jonathan Kominga and Moses Moody in the next two drafts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And,

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[SPEAKER_00]: They got younger with the idea of, whether Buster is so old, we kind of need to get young while keeping our top vets so that we still have opportunities for the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then what happens?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Steph Curry's like, okay, like we're gonna just win the title again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that throws off that timeline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the Niners, as we've seen by their moves,

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were kind of gearing towards next year and the year after as maybe the last hurrah with going for it with CMC with George Kittle, with Brock, Peng Brock the money that they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, okay, we have this roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can go after it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the next three years and they just got some of it was scheduled, but they played really well this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they were ahead of schedule, even with all those crazy injuries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now it's like next year and the year after is really their window.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What if they don't draft well, then that window closes, what if they do go after someone in the free agent market like a Max Crosby, and then that dude gets hurt again, like there's so many what ifs when it comes to this stuff, I would like to know from Shanahan and from Lynch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like how do they do they how do they see their roster?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it just a work in progress?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there a plan?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Would they like to get younger?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are they just going to go for it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like those are questions that I'm going to guess that we're going to be talking about all offseason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know I don't know what the answer is, but do you what do you think that they're going to do or how they're going to try to balance this heading into next year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to by the way,

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[SPEAKER_00]: they're going to have a third place schedule so it would not have been quite as bad as if they won the division and won the conference though if they did they may be still playing right now but so you know they're they're not that they're back to being a third place schedule which probably helps for next year even as competitive as they were this year yeah it's going to be

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[SPEAKER_01]: you want that you know you're we're glad they did as well as they did but again you did not do yourselves any favors in terms of restocking a roster necessarily I mean it's you know it would be it would have been nice to get another top 10 top 15 pick and now we're picking at like 27 which is

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, basically a second round pick if you, you know, for all my 10 purposes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then what I was looking at in terms of like when you was talking about the Titans with us is that not it's just you get that all is it's a 27 pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in every round.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, going, you know, so it's it's like you're picking at the bottom of every round, which it's just not it's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and we all we have to we all acknowledge it, you know, in a, in a lot of ways, the draft is a dart throw in terms of who's going to be there when it's time for you to pick, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Clearly, you always want to draft higher than lower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not, we haven't been great at drafting anyway three of the past four years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not going to be any easier this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like you say, when you talk about how,

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[SPEAKER_01]: All this roster is maybe I'm the full hearty one trying to get younger through the draft and you just say after those picks and you try to package them and get somebody like max cross be if you can and just kind of try to go all in with hopefully a healthy boss and a healthy Warner and

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[SPEAKER_01]: roll the dice on another healthy CMC season and just see where it goes or do you try to be responsible and just rebuild it through the draft and again try to piece together a roster with

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[SPEAKER_01]: mid tier free agents and just kind of continue to do what we've been doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have the answer, so I'll be as anxious to see what they decide as anybody will be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting you mentioned JJ, I could easily see it's going to be when you talk about

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I talked about how this being a relationship business we're going to it's going to be We're going to see really quickly with two former 49er receivers what the market is because I Happened to think just from what I know as players JJ and BA and Tennessee would be a great starting point for building over the silver room if

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[SPEAKER_01]: you mess with them as players, and it will be interesting to see how solid feels about them as guys and as players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another interesting place for our Earthswile receiver, BA, is I think that for a lot of reasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: L-A-L-A-C is all of a sudden a real good landing spot with McDonald, with McDaniel, and Harba.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know Harba is not going to be tripping off a dude that had held out, and they could definitely use an extra-sever down there, and obviously they have a working, or like him, and McDaniel have a working relationship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that would be interesting to see how that goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think

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[SPEAKER_01]: Either a team like Tennessee who's trying to establish a culture would be a good place for somebody like JJ.

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[SPEAKER_01]: as a culture center in terms of showing young receivers, how you want them to go about their business, or a team that is reworking their receiver room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he is, like you said, he is a really good wide receiver three on a very good team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a team like Kansas City would kind of make sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A team like Buffalo teams that are right there

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[SPEAKER_01]: Championship level, he would be a guy that as a wide receiver three would be somebody who could be a difference maker in that role as we've seen it on a good team Him as a wide receiver three is a very good player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to be a very good team if he's your one or two Yes, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm not a I haven't watched hard knocks in a while But if you gave me

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ellie chargers, hard knocks with harbors, McDaniel and B.A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm watching every episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, please, even without B.A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am so intrigued about McDaniel's personality and whether or not it blends very well with harbors like weirdo personality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are the artist of couples, but I heard somebody I forget who it was and I was listening to as a pocket, it might have been mean of times that it could actually work because they are both two different flavors of weirdo and it might just be

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[SPEAKER_01]: it might just somehow work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, they're both clearly brilliant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as a play caller and play designer, Magdaniel is, um, top to the lead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is just, it's kind of like, I know it was me and she said, if you could take,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Magdaniel scheme and the toughness that a hard-bought team is just imbued with by force of will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You might have something, you know, if you could get a hard-bought team and a Magdaniel scheme to kind of come together and work, it could be brilliant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: it could be a disaster, but I'd you say I would I would love to watch it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Mick McDaniel has that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those years of being an NFL head coach under his belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm sure that changes the dynamic on on how Harbaugh sees him because my worry would be that Harbaugh sees him as kind of like a little pip squeak who didn't even make it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yet he showed that you know that that he could handle that role at least for a little while on his own and you know Calcami has also said because Calcami has been covering Harba since the Stanford days and they have a really strong relationship and he said you know Harba and Kyle's personality a little bit closer to each other than people would would

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[SPEAKER_00]: McDaniel, you know, would would fit underneath our bot a little bit better than we realized.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think for me, at least, McDaniel showed me a lot when that team could have quit on him after five games, but they did, they ended up just not being very good, but they ran off after hitting

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[SPEAKER_01]: he was going to get fired.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was sure he was going to get fired and in his those press conferences were awful to watch and they just seemed like he was a damn man walking and eventually he did get fired but it was a lot more respectable there this year than I would have thought possible after five games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean that was that was a feather in his cap to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mac Jones and this will be the kind of last thing before we move on to the game today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Kyle and it is playing a little bit of poker here by, you know, not want, obviously you don't want to talk about trading your own player anyways, but, you know, playing a little coy with, you know, maybe the elephant in the room that

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mac Jones, more than likely, played his way into a starting position on one or two of the T or at least the opportunity to compete for a starting position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, you know, maybe if they can get a halfway decent pick for Mac, then maybe they're not necessarily too worried about

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[SPEAKER_00]: their late number one for another player like Max that would it would be interesting and how they, you know, I know that every team has like this board of like what each pick like the value of each pick and and how it drops every round and such, but you know, if you could get something really good for Mac maybe they would be more open or maybe they'd be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they could trade that mackpick for a player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so that that whole scenario I think will be interesting to see how they play that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But got to believe that, you know, he sees what slang and Sammy Darnold is doing and is like, man, I could do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Give me a team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I need my, my team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I got under the Shanahan or the Kyle Shanahan tree too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did my work as a

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, people got to look at me like Sam now got to be in the back of his mind, of course, yeah, of course, of course, but it'll be and that'll be interesting to see what they do there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would imagine that this would be a pretty big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: off season program for work to see what they've got with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he, if they believe that he is a player, if that could, you know, hold it down this season, if you go to India, I just

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it's got to be a happy dude right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just in Indiana shine and now it may be that if like you say, I mean, I was saying with them trying to get younger, if at that point, you can get a second or third round or fourth round picky, even for Mac.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you might consider flipping it because, to me, I think the third and fourth round, that those should be at rock bottom, those should be rotation players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You should, you know, first three picks are should be guys who can be starters in the NFL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then four and five are guys also who, and Phil, we've gotten, you know, George Kettle was a fifth round pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, scheme, it turns out the George Kittle wasn't a scheme fit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was just a great player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you get guys who slip and who would just, you know, if you are good at identifying players, which, which is the confounding thing to me is that, you know, John Link's built this roster to a championship roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just, it's been two or the last three graphs that we have just

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[SPEAKER_01]: with on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know that he's just forgotten how to pick players or you know when a person hits a streak like that, I have because I don't know his worth that work ethic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know anything about how they go about doing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But all I can judge is the result.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, two of the past three drafts have just been awful, like the 2000 draft, 2002 draft, Brock Curry was the only hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the only one still on the roster three years later, which is just objectively,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, you can call a bad luck, whatever you want to call it, it's just, it's not acceptable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't have three years after a draft, only one player on the draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you look at those picks,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, when you look back in hindsight, it's clear if that rock pick, it was not like some sort of master stroke of genius.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just, it was a dark throw, and that they hit on, because the rest of that draft was just awful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was awful,

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[SPEAKER_01]: None of those guys were even close to being players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like they dragged the Drake Jackson was great and he just got hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he did get hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was hurt when he got here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was just hurt until then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you go Danny Gray and then you go TDP.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's just, those were just objectively bad picks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no, even if I want to be play,

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of those picks are just indefensible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It even in hindsight is as ridiculous as I think hindsight drafting is like the biggest waste of time ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What they could have had this guy and they could have had that guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's kind of easy to say that, you know, two years later, but it's just been a rough go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just the kind of side can be is that he hasn't

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[SPEAKER_01]: a great run and we saw some good things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mike Hill Williams, we got hurt, he flashed from stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And later in the season, both CJ West and Alfred Collins did some good things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of people seem to be high on up and stout.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot higher than I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there were some good things that happened in this last draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they really need to be about the business

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[SPEAKER_01]: these drafts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, like you say, if you can get somebody like Max Crosby, if it's really just as low as, you know, we give them that, not first round pick this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If that's all it takes, I think you'd really have to consider that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's when you start talking about multiple pieces or multiple first, over multiple years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, the Niners aren't going to be the only team

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[SPEAKER_01]: or packages, and why would the Raiders not hold out for the best possible offer, you know, unlike, you know, 49er fans who think, well, they're just our farm team and they'll just give us some of it might be, some of it might be, you know, if you really, really

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[SPEAKER_00]: playing good here will help you get another player, you know, the there's there's stuff like that that is work works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's in every somewhere works in every sport, but it's not just football, but, you know, there's some things like that where, you know, you kind of wonder, like, oh, like, why did that person go there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they said that they wanted to go there and they ended up there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so, you know, this offseason, you know, you and I will, will be able to come back, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: several times before the draft to kind of talk about who can and who they should go after and and I'm sure there will be things that happen trade-wise and stuff where we'll be able to talk about that as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But let's quickly get to these title games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have to put some

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[SPEAKER_00]: My hypothesis was Sam Darnold is going to throw one to somebody and him having to come back from that will show us his growth as a quarterback.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That man played really good football today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, he has the best receiver in the league, but, you know, he's still got to make those throws Jason is amazing, you know, to see Jason and then to see Puka that that's what was that's part of that game for me is just to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: what a game breaker type of wide receiver looks like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, there have been moments where, you know, Debo was that for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: BA was never quite that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was more the consistent guy that you could depend on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, you know, those guys are so valuable to their football teams, especially today where the game is just so dictated on being able to move the football in large chunks in small amounts of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The NFL today is so predicated on

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[SPEAKER_00]: being able to just bust field position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the kick, the new kickoff rules kind of enhance that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh, like any game can, you know, the no lead is really too safe because

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they screw up on the kickoff and you got the ball in the 40 yard line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go, you'll get 15 yards in your infield goal position in some cases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just having those guys, because there was a moment in the game where the Rams, their kick, their, their punt returner pulled the Kyle Williams on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He fell on his back and still tried to catch the football.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and he fumbled and then Seattle scored and then the Rams got the ball right back and Stafford was like boom, boom, boom, boom, touchdown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're we're getting right back in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just like, oh my gosh, like the ability to have two wide receivers and Devante Adams and Pook and Akua.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that that that tight end, Parkinson was was it was great too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that is so valuable and it kind of makes you hope that the Niners can find somebody like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, some people say, well, you got CMC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But CMC is he's the safety valve.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the guy who's, you know, the second or third look off for Perty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not the one

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that that was great to see and it just shows you the value.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So seeing those guys play football today was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Seeing that Seattle Seahawks pass rush See even the Rams pass rush is seeing how that the motors on those defensive lines now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a much more of an offensive game than I think I actually expected it to be but it wasn't because the defense is we're not

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[SPEAKER_00]: good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those defenses were good, but the offenses were just greater.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but yeah, Sam Donald played great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love watching Matt Stafford throw the football.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though these last two years, he's come up short in that NFC title game, but I thought he played really well today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was an interesting fourth down call late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're down for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they could kick the chippy field goal to be down one, hope that their defense holds out to get the ball back and like I said in this field position game, you don't have to score for a chunky h to be in position to kick that field goal, but they didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They went forward on fourth down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They couldn't get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that kind of, it felt like at that moment like that the game was over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you think about that call from McVay to go forward on

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, to against that team, I mean, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess he felt like they had the hot hand or whatever, but yeah, it just, it was, it seemed like a desperate call.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I mean, it was, the defensive player just made a great play on that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: on that play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was, you know, I guess I commend him for, you know, trying to go and win the game as opposed to kick a field goal and try to get the ball back, because I guess, you know, I guess he wasn't as confident as stopping them as he was, he was more confident with his

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[SPEAKER_00]: I asked my buddy Brad from the Thompson Clark podcast because he's he's a hardcore Rams fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said that he was that he's actually grew up in Santa Clara not far from where I live right now and he said neither of his parents were football fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason he's a Rams fan is because in 1983, they drafted Eric Dickerson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's a Dickerson guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I just hit him up after the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, you know, what's what's the Rams fan base saying about going forward on fourth down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then also McVay kind of burned a timeout late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a necessary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'll just read.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll read you what he said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said that McVay knew exactly what's new.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They weren't getting the ball back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The defense couldn't stop them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I said, I agree with you, except the series of downs right before is when they finally stopped Seattle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, yeah, he said, yeah, but the team just made two many mistakes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously he's talking about the special teams and the fumble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It breaks the, when you have a play like that and we experienced it in the NFC championship and the, that, the Kyle Williams game is what was that had been harbours second year or, or I think, and Kyle Williams fumbles twice and that game was just a battle of field position more than anything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that like those kind of like you're playing the field position, you've got you're trying to get some urgency, some energy, and to just have your defense playwell, stop the team, and then you give the ball right, right back in like a short field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is just so heartbreaking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a tough one to come back from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I still thought,

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[SPEAKER_00]: but they had a chance and if even if I'm playing John, you know, I don't play John Man in football anymore, but if I was playing John Man in football, I think I kicked a field goal, and I tried to see what Donald does with the longer field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're gonna have a share of Kenneth Walker, who's turned into fantastic running back, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That dude is good, he's very elusive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you're going to have to, I, I still don't understand how JSN even gets open anymore, because I would just have like, everybody's like, drink out of my gosh, like he's just as long as it's not him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Cooper cup beats me, then so be it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jake Bobo beats me, then that's fine, but Cooper is no wife Cooper makes a catch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My middle linebackers chasing him down anyways, so I don't, you know, I don't got to worry about him, you know, extending the field too much, but yeah, I was just like man, but anyways, so that's how I work again, like you see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To your point, you just, I mean, if you're somebody like me who's just, I just give Sam Donald every chance to turn into a pumpkin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I kicked the field goal and I give him the ball back and give him yet another chance to throw me to ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what, I mean, that's what I'm gambling is that if I give him enough opportunities, he's gonna give me one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe I ain't that being wrong, which I was today, he played great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that again, that would be my plan in the Super Bowl, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm new England is I want to give Sam Darno, and I want to put Christine and got Gonzalez on Jason, is I'm going to try to shut that down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm going to have Sam Darno throw the ball to Jake Bobo, and Cooper Cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if they beat me, they beat me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jason is not going to beat me and in my bet is that if he throws it 40 times again in the Super Bowl that he's going to throw one To the England that would be at least that would be how I would that would be where my money would be But I can't take anything away from today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was excellent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was just a really good football game those teams know each other so well

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[SPEAKER_00]: those coaches are going to have more of the, you know, every season, it seems like McVay is burnt out and has to decide if he's going to want to come back or not, but, you know, those things crazy how much younger he is and Kai.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is, it's, it's, and Kai, there's a young he had coach with a lot of experience and McVay is even younger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and the, you know, I'm just going to be

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[SPEAKER_00]: two teams of the Niners are going to have to consistently play good football against it's going to be a beast of an NFC West and you're just going to got to be thankful that the Cardinals still exist and take care of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, that's what I was thinking when I was watching this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Both these organizations are rock solid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have really good head coaches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right now, they have the right quarterbacks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see, Stafford is, he's probably a couple years away from truly hanging it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that was a really good football game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was I'm not that I really rooted for anybody I was rooting for Brad because he's a Ram's fan I was rooting for his team to get there, but You know Seattle Seattle was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They they just look So much faster than everybody else left or everyone in the playoffs their team speed just looked so much faster Everybody so let's quickly talk about the AFC game That was not a good football game

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to think of and I couldn't actually think I'm sure there's an easy answer that I'm just not thinking of but Who's the worst quarterback to have actually played in an NFC or AFC title game because Jared Stidham didn't I don't think he played all year and he'd looked like he hadn't played all year and

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were some moments where he was double in triple pumping, and then he would end up shoveling it to nobody, and I was just like, man, like this guy, I kind of feel bad for him, but in a sense, it's like

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what would you think your job was is just to kind of, you know, watch Bonyx for the whole year, like at some point you didn't need to play, but then the weather got so bad and it was 10 seven for like almost the whole game, the Pat's scored a Drake may touch down run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Broncos scored the first touchdown at the game and then it was just.

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[SPEAKER_00]: nothing but snow and punts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was that was the rest of the game.

01:00:49.429 --> 01:00:57.103
[SPEAKER_01]: That was crazy how it was just like you could just see that the Patriots were looks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just not going to turn a ball over and we're going to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we're going to we just don't think these dudes in score.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That it was when the I'd never said I'd never, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm stealing Tony Romo's line, but I know I've never seen a game where the weather changed so much over such a short period of time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, you know, the weather really was a, it was a factor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was definitely a factor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the, it became,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was, it was the most important thing about the game, like given it like there were moments where like there was a good moment in the game where At least for the Broncos where you thought, okay, maybe they have a chance because the punner kicked it like I think maybe the paths had it on like the eight yard line or something and then

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were plays before, where I think it was Ramanjre Stevenson, like, couldn't even get up from his stance and just slips.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Drake's got to, like, just fall on an ear, whatever, that's how bad the environment the snow was on the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you're like, okay, well, now you're kind of relying on Drake to make a mistake, but maybe the best thing about him

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[SPEAKER_00]: was he was just like, I'm just going to be willing to put my body out there on the line like Josh Allen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I don't know what that means for him as, you know, for the length of his career because my man takes some hits, but he seemed the idea of

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if I cannot find a receiver, I have my legs and I can step right up in this pocket and go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was kind of like his own safety valve was his own legs and he extended several drives just by running when there was nothing else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're Denver, you're like, man, we got this whole thing covered up and yet they still get the first down that had to be frustrating for Denver but like they couldn't do anything offensively either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it just became a stalemate.

01:03:07.979 --> 01:03:29.600
[SPEAKER_00]: Stitham through an interception at the end of the game that kind of ended it where I was like that wasn't a bad play as much as it was like I have no other hope except I'm gonna throw this football in the air I'm gonna pray and hope that something good happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see only chance I have and nothing good happened because there was nothing there and he could do nothing

01:03:35.722 --> 01:03:50.577
[SPEAKER_00]: Like my goodness, at least at least at least at least get creative, like I guess even they tried to run a couple of screens and he's thrown into the back of his offensive lineman and it just was, it wasn't going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just wasn't the day, but that New England team in every game that they've played so far in the playoffs, I thought, huh, they can be had.

01:04:01.709 --> 01:04:06.896
[SPEAKER_00]: But they were just defensively, they were better than the other team, but they could be had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now it looks like they're going to go up against the juggernaut Seahawks team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this kind of reminds me of the first Tom Brady Super Bowl, where the Rams are coming off of a heater of a regular season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the pats are like a double digit underdog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and they go out and they win and they control the game and you could see Brady, the true first witness of Brady's greatness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if it's going to happen that way for Drake May.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems to me that Seattle is going to

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[SPEAKER_00]: Disguise some things and probably bring some heat and he's going to have to figure out how to do that he leaves the ball on the field a lot as it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it seems to me that Seattle's going to be able to take advantage of him just being a young player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if there's anybody else offensively on their team that really scares Seattle's defense much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really going to be him and in a smart game plan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like this is Seattle's game to have, but I don't know what you saw in either of those games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you thinking about for two weeks from today?

01:05:14.778 --> 01:05:36.010
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I what I saw that was very interesting is you could solve them and I don't know that this is true that that's what they were saying, but Daniel and Um, we'll go say solid and variable come together and they have a confab and then they just run the ball the rest of the game because at this time,

01:05:35.990 --> 01:05:43.867
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying to my sister law, who is a Denver Bronco fan that I think the Denver defense has a better chance of scoring.

01:05:43.887 --> 01:05:49.620
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, then the offense does at this point and they took the air completely out of the ball.

01:05:49.640 --> 01:05:51.604
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they saw the same thing.

01:05:51.865 --> 01:05:55.332
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not throwing the ball and giving them any opportunity.

01:05:55.312 --> 01:05:58.537
[SPEAKER_01]: to pick this big ticket back to the house.

01:05:58.557 --> 01:06:01.161
[SPEAKER_01]: So what we're gonna do, we're just gonna run it and put it.

01:06:01.361 --> 01:06:05.448
[SPEAKER_01]: And then if Jared said them beat us, then so be it.

01:06:05.908 --> 01:06:08.713
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it got extremely conservative.

01:06:09.113 --> 01:06:17.125
[SPEAKER_01]: And it worked out because I guess I think that their defense was the biggest threat to the Patriots at that point.

01:06:17.827 --> 01:06:24.036
[SPEAKER_01]: And I felt, you know, I felt kind of bad because I was kind of rooting for Huff and Greenlaw.

01:06:24.505 --> 01:06:28.512
[SPEAKER_01]: to get to the Super Bowl in Santa Clara.

01:06:29.633 --> 01:06:38.368
[SPEAKER_01]: But they had their defense was legitimate and the great today and for the rest of the season, for the entire season.

01:06:38.748 --> 01:06:39.670
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just sucks.

01:06:39.710 --> 01:06:44.758
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, it's kind of analogous to what happened when party got hurt.

01:06:44.738 --> 01:06:45.639
[SPEAKER_01]: with us.

01:06:45.779 --> 01:07:06.747
[SPEAKER_01]: It sucks that they were in a position where, you know, the only difference is actually still them was there all year and actually does have experience in that offense and with somebody that apparently Peyton hand picked to have on their team and somebody that

01:07:07.604 --> 01:07:08.806
[SPEAKER_01]: wanted in New England.

01:07:08.826 --> 01:07:12.191
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, he's not somebody that is without skill.

01:07:12.251 --> 01:07:15.716
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it was rather disappointing that he couldn't get anything done.

01:07:15.756 --> 01:07:17.259
[SPEAKER_01]: And at least early.

01:07:17.299 --> 01:07:23.308
[SPEAKER_01]: But because then once the weather's plipped, I mean, I did the papers did do anything either.

01:07:23.468 --> 01:07:30.138
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, in that in those conditions, I don't know how much of that you can necessarily once the weather turned.

01:07:30.438 --> 01:07:32.301
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much that you could put on still.

01:07:32.582 --> 01:07:34.104
[SPEAKER_01]: But there was an opportunity.

01:07:34.124 --> 01:07:36.227
[SPEAKER_01]: There were opportunities

01:07:36.207 --> 01:07:46.905
[SPEAKER_00]: prior to that that they simply did not cash, you know, and I should be fair and say that their kicker missed two field goals as well.

01:07:47.045 --> 01:07:49.409
[SPEAKER_00]: He makes one of those and it's that high game.

01:07:51.293 --> 01:07:51.733
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.

01:07:51.994 --> 01:07:54.077
[SPEAKER_01]: You are 100% right.

01:07:54.758 --> 01:07:57.723
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, like we do, we talk about quarterbacks.

01:07:57.763 --> 01:07:58.705
[SPEAKER_01]: We give them credit.

01:07:59.090 --> 01:07:59.891
[SPEAKER_01]: or the blame.

01:08:00.212 --> 01:08:02.736
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, they were just wide open throws.

01:08:02.857 --> 01:08:06.343
[SPEAKER_01]: They still missed earlier in the game.

01:08:06.383 --> 01:08:08.126
[SPEAKER_01]: They did like you say, there are screen paths.

01:08:08.146 --> 01:08:10.810
[SPEAKER_01]: This is where he just, he's hitting the guy in the back.

01:08:11.131 --> 01:08:12.413
[SPEAKER_01]: He's throwing it behind him.

01:08:12.574 --> 01:08:13.495
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just missing them.

01:08:14.216 --> 01:08:17.722
[SPEAKER_01]: These are things that, you know, a, you know, he's a veteran at this point.

01:08:17.743 --> 01:08:18.584
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not a rookie.

01:08:18.624 --> 01:08:21.469
[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't played a lot, but

01:08:21.449 --> 01:08:22.631
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not a rookie.

01:08:23.312 --> 01:08:26.217
[SPEAKER_01]: Those are plays that you expect to veteran back up.

01:08:26.358 --> 01:08:41.304
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, you know, that's the whole reason you get paid is to be able to come in and be competent, which, you know, say, I have my core, my, my, my, my quarrels with my core whole Jones, but say what you want about him, that's what he did.

01:08:41.405 --> 01:08:43.849
[SPEAKER_01]: He came in and did his job.

01:08:43.889 --> 01:08:44.470
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he,

01:08:44.905 --> 01:08:52.024
[SPEAKER_01]: was never the reason that, you know, he lost three games that he started, but he was at the reason we lost those.

01:08:52.044 --> 01:08:57.058
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're really comfortable as a fan.

01:08:57.190 --> 01:09:03.920
[SPEAKER_00]: because you know that he can make some throws and he's going to make some smart decisions now is he going to be able to get out of the pocket probably not.

01:09:04.361 --> 01:09:09.129
[SPEAKER_01]: But then is he going to and is he going to throw the ball to the team at some point?

01:09:09.149 --> 01:09:13.415
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he's going to those are all part of the McCorka League experience.

01:09:13.836 --> 01:09:23.190
[SPEAKER_01]: But by and large play and then play out, he is a competent quarterback and that's pretty much all you can expect out of your backup.

01:09:23.591 --> 01:09:25.594
[SPEAKER_01]: McCorka doesn't lose that

01:09:25.574 --> 01:09:54.062
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't think they were there, I don't

01:09:55.544 --> 01:10:06.621
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking, okay, New England is doing that so that they shorten or they cut the field in half because he's running and there's no place for him to throw.

01:10:06.641 --> 01:10:21.484
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's literally just rolling out to run out of bounds and I was like he's falling into, you know, their their their hands defensively and it would be nice for him.

01:10:21.464 --> 01:10:42.088
[SPEAKER_00]: to either make a throw before he gets flushed out or maybe step up in a way where they think maybe he's going to run, which opens up somebody, let kind of like how both Stafford and Darnall did in that second game where Stafford, there were a couple times where Stafford

01:10:43.081 --> 01:10:59.672
[SPEAKER_00]: he teased like he was going to run just to make the defense react and then he threw and you know he's also very savvy quarterback and he's fantastic and he's good under pressure in that way instead I'm just looked like he was playing quarterback like

01:11:00.310 --> 01:11:07.122
[SPEAKER_00]: his hair was on fire, every time he took a snap, which is not how that position is supposed to be played.

01:11:08.604 --> 01:11:09.426
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

01:11:09.486 --> 01:11:14.414
[SPEAKER_00]: So what's your prediction for Super Bowl 60?

01:11:14.475 --> 01:11:17.019
[SPEAKER_00]: That's unbelievable that it's Super Bowl 60.

01:11:18.822 --> 01:11:21.667
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've got to go with the sea hawks.

01:11:21.847 --> 01:11:25.153
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I think that,

01:11:26.146 --> 01:11:46.703
[SPEAKER_01]: like you said so eloquently that this team, this, this, this New England team, they've kind of especially on offense been kind of doing this with smoking mirrors and I just, I don't see anybody on their, I think that the, when you look at it for as a matchup matchup wise,

01:11:46.683 --> 01:11:48.527
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at this box score.

01:11:48.888 --> 01:12:05.046
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Seattle, unlike New England where you have to game plan against Jason, I think that that defense is so good that they can just play these two straight up, that they don't really need to, you know, like they're not, I don't think they're going to.

01:12:05.026 --> 01:12:12.959
[SPEAKER_01]: spend, you know, the whole two weeks figure out how to take Stefan Diggs out of the offense.

01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:20.831
[SPEAKER_01]: They'll just place Stefan Diggs straight up and they'll play all these do straight up and just let's just see what happens.

01:12:20.851 --> 01:12:27.422
[SPEAKER_01]: And make Drake may beat us, which I just, you know, he has made great strides for a young quarterback.

01:12:27.822 --> 01:12:28.283
[SPEAKER_01]: But

01:12:28.263 --> 01:12:32.354
[SPEAKER_01]: He's still got a long way to go in terms of being a passer.

01:12:32.695 --> 01:12:40.154
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just don't think that he had some really timely runs in this game.

01:12:40.295 --> 01:12:42.340
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think you're going to beat.

01:12:42.708 --> 01:12:45.152
[SPEAKER_01]: this Seattle tune that way.

01:12:46.033 --> 01:12:54.225
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think you're going to be able to, they're going to cover everything and then Drake May is going to ride to the rescue and rush for three scores.

01:12:54.345 --> 01:12:57.530
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I don't, I don't see it.

01:12:57.690 --> 01:13:08.045
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll spend my next two weeks trying to figure out what prop bets I'm going to place, but I think that Seattle is going to be a big favorite.

01:13:08.186 --> 01:13:11.871
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I see no reason.

01:13:13.117 --> 01:13:29.123
[SPEAKER_01]: As we talked about before, there's always going to be in the back of your mind to Sam Darn or could turn into a pumpkin and he could throw three pigs and if he does that, if he throw three pigs, then the pigs reach our live dog.

01:13:29.424 --> 01:13:36.475
[SPEAKER_01]: But I guess I'm seeing ghosts because that Sam Darno just has not

01:13:37.433 --> 01:13:39.235
[SPEAKER_01]: Reared his head in these playoffs.

01:13:39.615 --> 01:13:45.982
[SPEAKER_01]: It, you know, I am operating on old data to think that that's gonna happen.

01:13:46.022 --> 01:13:54.611
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I can't lie and not say that that's not always in the back of my mind that Sam Darno could throw this game away.

01:13:54.971 --> 01:13:58.535
[SPEAKER_01]: But it seems like his office coordinator knows that too.

01:13:58.635 --> 01:13:59.916
[SPEAKER_01]: Clint Kubieck knows that too.

01:14:00.637 --> 01:14:07.204
[SPEAKER_01]: And tries to keep him in situations that

01:14:09.074 --> 01:14:12.500
[SPEAKER_01]: help defend Sam Darno against himself.

01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:16.666
[SPEAKER_01]: And then when you've got Jason, I mean, he's like throwing it to him.

01:14:16.686 --> 01:14:19.451
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the ultimate eraser.

01:14:19.671 --> 01:14:24.619
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's I think it's I think it's um, but I think.

01:14:25.055 --> 01:14:39.183
[SPEAKER_01]: a lot of people talked about this week that I kind of like the old days with the Cowboys and the Niners that the NFC Championship game was the de facto Super Bowl and I think that that was the case.

01:14:39.463 --> 01:14:41.026
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to see Adam.

01:14:41.287 --> 01:14:41.848
[SPEAKER_00]: How are you?

01:14:41.828 --> 01:14:46.093
[SPEAKER_00]: I imagine that every defense of coordinator wants to speed up the quarterback.

01:14:46.273 --> 01:14:51.279
[SPEAKER_00]: They want to make him make decisions more quickly than he wants to make decisions.

01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:54.202
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that would be a key for New England.

01:14:54.222 --> 01:15:01.631
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know whether that's with blitzes or that's with just their their front four, just getting great pressure.

01:15:02.152 --> 01:15:11.042
[SPEAKER_00]: But that would be kind of like the thing that I would want to do.

01:15:11.630 --> 01:15:13.053
[SPEAKER_00]: get an early lead.

01:15:13.635 --> 01:15:16.681
[SPEAKER_00]: And ball control.

01:15:17.002 --> 01:15:19.408
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just the way that Drake made plays.

01:15:21.111 --> 01:15:25.842
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if I was doing a prop bet, I think I would try and I don't know what the odds would be on.

01:15:26.378 --> 01:15:35.028
[SPEAKER_00]: Drake throws, throws Seattle one, and then he fumbles one as well, because that dude, he sits in that pocket.

01:15:35.049 --> 01:15:47.003
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and it's like almost like he doesn't see these guys coming at and maybe he just feels like, you know, he can bounce these guys off of him or whatever, but there were moments in that first game that they had.

01:15:47.422 --> 01:15:58.772
[SPEAKER_00]: where I was like, um, I was like screaming at the TV, like dude, like this guys, like step up or, you know, move out of the pot and like, nope, boom, just takes a hit and he falls loose.

01:15:59.413 --> 01:16:16.669
[SPEAKER_00]: So that would be the bet that I would make is that he's going to give the other team the ball at least twice, um, but yeah, I mean, I can, I can see, I can see Sam being a, a little

01:16:17.054 --> 01:16:27.507
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's got the right receiver to be the guy, just, you know, if all else fails, just find him.

01:16:27.547 --> 01:16:31.352
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got that receiver, kind of like what Puka is for Stafford.

01:16:32.113 --> 01:16:42.406
[SPEAKER_00]: And when you have that guy going to come, he, I thought he was the best player on the actual field for the game today.

01:16:42.486 --> 01:16:43.888
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just just watching him.

01:16:45.168 --> 01:16:47.991
[SPEAKER_00]: you cannot take your eyes off of the things that he does.

01:16:48.051 --> 01:16:56.861
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's him being that player, them still being able to run the ball with Kenneth Walker because Kenneth Walker, he's elusive.

01:16:56.881 --> 01:17:05.311
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how fast he is necessarily, but he bounces off of guys and he gives you he's always pushing forward.

01:17:05.351 --> 01:17:09.636
[SPEAKER_00]: We saw that with the Niners two games in three weeks.

01:17:10.257 --> 01:17:11.378
[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.

01:17:11.797 --> 01:17:19.984
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just think just every position that they have to have a, it's almost like they must have a speed advantage at every

01:17:20.099 --> 01:17:27.867
[SPEAKER_00]: part of the game even special teams when you can run Rashid out there and you just feel like anytime he touches the ball he could break one.

01:17:28.748 --> 01:17:30.090
[SPEAKER_00]: He caught a long past today.

01:17:30.130 --> 01:17:33.093
[SPEAKER_00]: He took, I think he may have even taken a reverse today as well.

01:17:33.133 --> 01:17:36.757
[SPEAKER_00]: Like when he touches the ball, you're like, oh, what's going to happen here.

01:17:36.837 --> 01:17:38.138
[SPEAKER_00]: So you always having that.

01:17:38.158 --> 01:17:41.262
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think, I still have too many weapons to dominate.

01:17:41.762 --> 01:17:45.606
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they're going to win, you know, 30 to 20 or something like that would be my pick.

01:17:45.807 --> 01:17:49.971
[SPEAKER_00]: But um, well, we'll, we'll, we'll be able to

01:17:50.288 --> 01:17:51.550
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:17:51.730 --> 01:17:51.850
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:17:51.871 --> 01:17:52.091
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:17:52.291 --> 01:17:53.353
[SPEAKER_00]: I just hope it's a good game.

01:17:53.493 --> 01:17:56.077
[SPEAKER_00]: Last year was not fantastic.

01:17:56.618 --> 01:18:00.164
[SPEAKER_00]: Kansas City and the Niners was a good competitive game.

01:18:00.244 --> 01:18:01.165
[SPEAKER_00]: Not great for us.

01:18:02.487 --> 01:18:09.078
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it didn't turn out great, but it was it was definitely for me as a fan.

01:18:09.138 --> 01:18:10.140
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a nail bite.

01:18:10.340 --> 01:18:10.440
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:18:10.420 --> 01:18:15.549
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I think maybe if we go with the every other year thing, we're due for another good game.

01:18:15.609 --> 01:18:20.238
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but are we coming back in two weeks?

01:18:20.839 --> 01:18:22.422
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that the plan after the game?

01:18:22.562 --> 01:18:23.423
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:18:23.443 --> 01:18:24.245
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I think so.

01:18:24.285 --> 01:18:30.977
[SPEAKER_00]: May not be exactly after the game because we might have been having to kick people out of our houses, because because of party reasons.

01:18:30.957 --> 01:18:51.953
[SPEAKER_00]: uh uh but yeah at some point after the game we'll we'll we'll come back and we'll talk about chup on all the the Niners news that happens between now and then as well and you know I like I said I'm like I'm ten minutes away from Levi's but I think all the party time is happening in San Francisco anyway so um there's not I don't I don't think there's gonna be much happening in the South Bay

01:18:51.933 --> 01:19:12.642
[SPEAKER_00]: but uh... we'll see i i was gonna ask you are you one of the probal game are you going to the probal i don't even know where that it like when is that where is that what what is all that stuff i know it's choose day but i'm not sure exactly where it is yeah i'll all look up i have a patch buddy my buddy Ryan he was like

01:19:12.925 --> 01:19:23.022
[SPEAKER_00]: If I can get a ticket, he's a Patriots fan, he actually lives in Florida though, and he was like, if I get a ticket, I may need to bum your couch for the night.

01:19:23.182 --> 01:19:26.387
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, if you get a ticket, you can bum my couch for the night.

01:19:26.447 --> 01:19:29.873
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's another insane thing to do.

01:19:29.913 --> 01:19:35.021
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, if you, if you, if you're going to, if you need it, your pets, you know, your pets are back.

01:19:35.202 --> 01:19:35.963
[SPEAKER_00]: If you need it,

01:19:36.230 --> 01:19:38.355
[SPEAKER_00]: you can you can sleep on my couch.

01:19:38.415 --> 01:19:39.818
[SPEAKER_00]: So all right.

01:19:40.440 --> 01:19:41.322
[SPEAKER_00]: That is it from here.

01:19:41.382 --> 01:19:45.191
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be back after it's Super Bowl in two weeks.

01:19:45.472 --> 01:19:48.639
[SPEAKER_00]: So for Rod, I am WG.

01:19:48.679 --> 01:19:51.285
[SPEAKER_00]: We will see you when we see you piece out.