49ers' Lack of Pass Rush Kills Them in Texans Loss! Purdy Return? | We Want Winners

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[SPEAKER_02]: We are back on we want winners and we're only about a half an hour after the 49ers just got trucked by the Houston Texans and you also was funny as as I was thinking about this game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought, you know, I think Houston is probably going to win the Niners are still very much beat up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's in Houston early game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I could just it just felt that way like I think it's going to be close game, but I think Houston's just going to get the better of them and then I saw Houston's injury report and they're missing their two top receivers and I was like wait a second here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're missing their playmakers, which means they shouldn't be doing too much offensively.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and they put up like 400 something yards on the 49ers today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was crailed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was so wild to see the 49ers just defensively seem hopeless, like I don't know what the problems were outside of the injuries.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But as we know with this team, the injuries are just the one constant about this team is that they're just going to be injured.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you kind of have to put that in the rear view.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But just looking at what the personnel that Houston put up there offensively, I was like, oh my goodness, like how do the 49er, how does a 49er's defense get beat up like that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So badly when you know what's coming, a little bit of running and nothing but short passes, and you know, up to the start turned every Houston Texans wide receiver into West Welker for whatever reason.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that was a rough game for up to rough game for their secondary

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[SPEAKER_02]: run it into each other and tripping over their own feet it was it was crazy but I guess if you think about it this is like a game for them to learn from I'm sure they're going to be all over the tape expose on the tape but what was your thoughts coming into the game like did you think that they had a pretty good shot to win or did you sort of circle this one as maybe one of those that you didn't really expect them to to really come out firing on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, after watching the because it was one of those things I think it happened on here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it actually it did happen on there last week and I started looking ahead to the to this week's game and I looked at the.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the record of the Texans and they have the points for and it gets inside what's 61 points it was in the same but then they kind of got worked a little bit by Seattle and my thoughts coming to this game is that one I pretty much figured that the defense would be on alert because they you know given up like more points than they had and like three any three games up to that point

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, when you factor in, um, the whole, you know, it was another one of those situations where, you know, Demico knows us backwards and forwards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that could, I, I figured that would create a problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what I saw last week also on the offensive side of the ball was I was like, well,

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[SPEAKER_00]: They look real shaky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They looked real shaky and strow looked tentative.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, you know, if we could figure out a way to get some pressure on them and get them doubting themselves early, you know, who knows, maybe we can keep it close and just make it a rock fight and win like 96.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what I expected that game to be like today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: what I did not expect is that they would just be able to hold the ball for 10 or 12 minutes at a time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was crazy there in the first half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't have any first downs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't have any third downs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we had like a hundred total yards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really bizarre.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we went out and you know picked up that

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[SPEAKER_00]: touchdown and then, you know, we cut it to 11 and it's like, oh, well, maybe, but, you know, that defense is just they are so good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they, they look like we looked, you know, once upon a time, everybody, find the ball, you know, we've never had two past wrestlers like Hunter and Anderson,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and really impressed by their defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we just, you know, obviously, at this point, you know, solid schemes are on a sailor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's just running out of bodies at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really, really,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, everybody talks about that ridiculous clap trap of next man up, but, you know, at a certain point, when you're bringing in street free agents in there, then you know, I mean, you're, you are asking him to turn water into wine at a certain point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So to that point, I will give you a list of the guys who were,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Inactive for this game, for the 49ers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So obviously Brock party Jordan James so it's not yet been active.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ricky Pearsal, Jake Brendel, Bryce Huff, Yeter Grosmato's CJ West.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So from Jump Street, you are starting

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[SPEAKER_02]: probably obviously McCow Williams is a starter, but he's not necessarily and has yet to be really a past Russia.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, whoever your fourth string defense event is, and then up the middle, it's all secondary players, and then I know Alfred Collins had gotten hurt, but I guess he got he came back in and they would they get that more injuries unexpectedly are expected.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Collins shoulder D winters knee and a Collins return to the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've not heard about the D winters at all, but Shanahan said the two ankle injuries don't appear to be high ankle sprains.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Shanahan and what appears to be and not appears to be after games has been a rough one for us this year so far because Nick Bosa's ACL tear did not appear to be an ACL tree when he got early there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see what happens but but like the thing that I was and this is just my sort of like very fan heavy understanding of defensive concepts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But from a very juvenile point of view of NFL defense and what defensive coordinators have to look at what Robert Salah is thinking about knowing that the Houston Texans are going to be without too big weapons like my assumption was like, okay, they will play a little bit closer because they're not really worried about getting beat over the top.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the coverage will actually help the past rush a little bit because we know the past rush has been in flux and then now without huff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good luck.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that was my thinking like just for my mediocre understanding of defensive NFL concepts and so then I'm watching the game and I'm just going like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, they're doing okay, but why on 3rd and 5.

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[SPEAKER_02]: are they giving up the the middle so much like so easily like without even any struggle like why aren't we testing stroud to beat us over the top or they worried about him running are they were you know what are they worried about are they worried about the the backfield because when I was watching it I was like okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, you know, and when you watch NFL football, you only see, you kind of see the line of scrimmage at the beginning and then you just see wherever the ball travels and I'm watching from that view and I'm like, oh, there's Straud's first guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's wide open.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got to throw that guy boom first down and then, and then, oh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I see what he's doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's letting the receivers run their route and he's thrown into this guy out on the flats.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's wide open.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I can see that from my television view of the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even have to look at the the alt 22 taper anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm just wondering why are they not attacking those things knowing that

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[SPEAKER_02]: they don't have the receivers to really beat them over the top.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like why wasn't that more of a focus?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll we'll have to hear if the coaches talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But what did you see when it came to defensive game plan, especially with the secondary?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the first thing that was shocking to me was the lack of any pressure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they didn't blitz, if they just rushed for that mean, there was just nobody anywhere near CJ Stroud.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was like shocking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shocking it's shocking to see me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I understand the reason why they just don't have any afraid of having any professional past pressures at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not a slam on Collins or Williams that you're both of them when they, if you read, they're scouting reports and you know, watch any of their tape and look at their college.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: statistics that was going to be, that was something they would have to learn at the NFL level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They weren't quality past wrestlers in college, so to expect them to come in year one and to give them anything there was wish we're thinking, but it was shocking to see this offensive line,

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[SPEAKER_00]: long been talked about is one of the worst in the league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that was the thing that immediately came to mind after about a quarter is, oh, this 49ers defense is a get right defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, these, this is a defense of teams that are struggling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be looking to get here and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Try to get some things working because it was just it was too easy like a same, you know, they had like a half hours worth of time position in the first half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was it was for an offense that if you just look one week earlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: was clearly struggling with their identity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were leaking confidence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The offensive line was bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: CJ Stra out was missing open receivers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And look, he was doing that early against us, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I felt that if we could kind of shake him up just a bit, he could get, we might be able to get inside his head and continue the bad feelings that he had, the bad taste and the bad feelings he had

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, continue his little doom spiral, but we did the exact opposite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We allowed him to make some throws, get some confidence, you know, break off some huge runs and then the offensive lineman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: are feeling pretty good like, you know, they could dominate these dudes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's, you know, when a team is leaking confidence, that's the last thing you want to give them is any sort of good feeling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we, we're all the good fields at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know that that was the most concerning thing to me in the first half and then moving forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, once they got up, you know, by 11, I was like, man, this is like mathematically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't see these dudes scoring another 12 points against these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just, I didn't see how I was going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The, their defense was playing so well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And our offense was just scuffling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you had, you know, I, I feel bad that I'm like, not as gung-ho is everybody else is all

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to he's got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to get hit a couple more times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got it throw a pick at some point in these proceedings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't see how he's going to give us, you know, 12 or 14 more points, but you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually surprised the announcers did not get on Mac for that throw, because that is exactly the coverage that you want, Joanne Jennings, big receiver, tall receiver against a smaller DB, Mac through that ball, in the only place the DB was going to catch it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like JJ had all of the advantages on that play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you need to throw that thing up for grabs so that JJ could use his physicality get up there and score and that that seemed to be like an easy throw for for Mac and I was joking with my kids on them as we were texting back forth about the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, now I understand by the New England fans are so frustrated with him, like that was New England Mac, that actually that throw, it frustrated me, but they were already down 11.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were going to have to have like this miraculous comeback anyways.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The ones that bothered me the most were the third down throws, third and long, and he's thrown five yard outs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, well, what does that do?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have any receivers outside of Christian.

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[SPEAKER_02]: who can actually run after the catch, like every throw that you make that is down the field, the reality is that more than likely they're going to catch it and get tackled.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just the playmakers that they have right now until pretty Ricky comes back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it was the, you know, the third and eight and we're throwing it five yards and hoping that somebody makes a play throwing in front of the sticks, even the last play in the game, it's like fourth and 13 and he throws it for eight yards and I was like, why don't we even have a route that guy goes eight yards unless they were trying to set up a hook and ladder or something that I didn't see, but like that was what was bothering me to and I get it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a statue.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been getting hit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's also hurt.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to give him that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is what we understand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the getting rid of the ball so quickly when his whole game is sitting there and waiting for place to develop.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing that frustrated me the most, and I was like, well, that's New England Mac.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's why he's available to us as a backup.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is no shade, because he, I think I saw the stat that he was leading the league and passing yardage per game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The whole league, some of that is because the Niners had been struggling and run the ball so much, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we haven't had that version of Mac where he's just ripping it down the field in a little bit, but I just was like that like it seems like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The media loves the Mac story, like they're in love with this Mac and Shanahan story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, yeah, yeah, but can we like say the things that he is not doing well in this game?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what is this like?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We cannot criticize this guy for just taking sacks and running into his own offensive linemen to fall down and take another sack.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he got legwipped by his own guy on one of those sacks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I know it's a good story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We can be critical of the guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's very clear things that Brock Perti does way better than Mack and probably would have would have helped that a little bit today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just think the the Mack love is very interesting to me from a national media level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it is, you know, I've had been want to say this week on social media and again, I don't have anything against McDonald's really, but, you know, when we learn this during the Jimmy G area, when era is whens are aren't a quarterback sack, you know what

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[SPEAKER_00]: getting, you know, not taking them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You look, it's just the facts are, is that we're never going to see, but it never is a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I understand it as I'm saying, we're never going to see another nine three to quarterback with Max profile.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just, they aren't making them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can look at high school and college.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't, you don't have statues playing quarterback anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to have some level of mobility.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to be able to play that position and he is just not mobile enough to do that in a to be given the keys to somebody's franchise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I do believe is what he is now is as a number two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He can make a lot of money doing this because if he is your backup,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He does a lot of good things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He makes a lot of great throws.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just have to understand that there are going to be some things that come with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to make you five or six excellent throws.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's going to put the ball in harm's way two or three times as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's probably going to take two or three sex according to back who had just average mobility, wouldn't take.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you have to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But all of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Consider he's still a very good backup quarterback.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you've got him, he's, you know, that he, that you're, you're very, um, you're solid at that spot with him there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go back to the defense for a second here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was kind of thinking similarly to you, how are they going to get pressure on CJ?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we talked about last week how Sala was so fantastic into mixing penex up and penex was confused a lot of that second half, just from the different looks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they even mentioned on the call that the 49ers were trying to do some things very similarly to mix

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess I did see one or two things where or maybe he threw the ball a second to early.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he had his, he had his opportunity to sort of figure everything out because he had so much time back there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And even when they blitzed, it was almost like the blitz was in the wrong spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it allowed CJ to escape the pockets.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe they didn't have that edge covered up

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[SPEAKER_02]: where what they did look fantastic this week they tried to do some similar stuff and they just were not as sharp with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, even I think there was an upd and stout blitz where he actually got a hold of CJ.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's the closest thing that they had to to any sort of pressure whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll look at the stats in a second.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But did you see?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The same, did you see some of the same things that they were trying to do last week that just didn't work or they did they have to pull back on some of that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just seemed so effective.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was one earlier where I want to say it was well, Winters who came in on one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know the team and got the hit, but it definitely made him get rid of ball quicker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's great at calling them, but it just hurts when you can't get any other pressure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: without that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it just, it, it seemed like, especially early, that they were trying to rattle him, but they just, you know, they couldn't make it happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then once he just started feeling, you know, confident,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, you know, we were out of the gate, you know, because he had like two under yards passing in the first half, um, it was, it was just really daunting watching them try to get to them and they just, you know, they just couldn't, they couldn't make a play and they just couldn't get off the field.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Per ESPN stats, two quarter back hits, zero sex.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's how close they got to him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We got a pic, though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We finally found out, you know, I didn't even see it because I was, I was so's watching on, I have Hulu Live television.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't have cable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, I do it through Hulu's live streaming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I started to give a little bit late,

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I came in and usually it's really good at allowing me to just fast forward and fast forward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then eventually catch up to live viewing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But for some reason, it kept screwing up and it kept popping me back out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm trying to get back to live gaming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I get to the kiddo touchdown.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, and so I'm trying to get past the kiddo touchdown and it keeps flipping me all the way back to the beginning of the game and I'm like, this is ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I restart the whole app come back and then I try and get back to right after the kiddo touchdown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was interception and they were trying to, and it's one of those plays where if we had a competent offense, it might, you know, we got the score and then we got the interception and then it was just appointed out that Demo tried to run it back, whereas if he had just

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[SPEAKER_00]: if he had just took a knee or ran out of bounds there was a they we were in a position to feel where would have been like a chip shot field goes so we left we left points on the field there which you know who knows how that three points might have changed because that as it turns out

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we were, if with, you know, that's fuzzy math, obviously, because if you add that three, then we're playing for a touchdown and a 2 pointer to tie it, which, you know, I don't like to play those games, those are that's kind of middle gymnastics, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Never the less.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the streak is dead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 15 straight is over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And of the of the snaps that I watched, they weren't anywhere close to making any play whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, so that what did you think about the tackling because

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm watching this game and I had 20, 24 visions as it was watching with all the miss tackles, especially now the run game wasn't anything special it was there to you know kind of just make the 49ers think about it they did run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: 36 times 157 yards 30 of that was with CJ and one of those runs was a 23 yard run by Woody Marx.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the Niners were not fantastic in the run, but it's not like Houston used that as the, as the, you know, as the biggest reason why they won the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But there were so many opportunities for the Niners to stuff them for one or two yards or even losses.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and the wrapping up was just not there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And some of it is, you know, the Texans running match were just like not giving up and they're running through the play and picking up extra yards.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that tackling, it just reminded me of last year because there's so many times last year where we're like, you know, they read the play correctly and then they get there and then they can't finish and there was a lot of not finishing in the backfield today I thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It really was, and it'll be interesting to see the PFF numbers, but Mustafa was in position several times to make a play and just flat with, and there's a classable where he just kind of overruns it and falls down, and Mark's just kind of,

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[SPEAKER_00]: school's buying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that was a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Another thing along those lines is Jaya Brown, he does a really good job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Drop, find out in there, and making tackles on the run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he is terrible in coverage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You, it's one of those things where you see a guy being good at something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So obviously you want to do that thing, but that thing can bite you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't be a safety who is thinking about getting down into the box first because oftentimes you have coverage responsibilities that don't allow you to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're always trying to cheat to get,

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[SPEAKER_00]: into the box.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a recipe for disaster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So offensively, it's a whole lot of nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you look, if you look at the box score, Christian eight carries for 25 yards, Mac actually had 23 yards rushing himself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I kind of wanted to have a drawn conversation here because Joan had, he had a moment in the offseason where he really, he really tried to use some leverage knowing that one of the ways that the 49ers pay their guys is to kind of just redo their contract every year, push up

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[SPEAKER_02]: and then they just go along their way, and 49ers did not do that with Joanne Jennings this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were like, nope, we're good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You want to hold out, you hold out, buddy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was sort of unfair, and I could see from Joanne's perspective how unfair it was because of his, you know, his last several years, including last year, which was his best season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He steps up when they, you know, when they lose B.A.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, you look at where his career is going with the injuries and with their inability to really, or with his inability to stretch the field and you sort of get it from their perspective too, which is,

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we did this with you last year, you had a good season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't really think that you're going to be in the future plans for the next year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And thus, we're not going to redo your deal so that you get more money up front.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're happy that you're just going to play on your current contract.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so then, it's kind of now a prove it year for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's had so many injuries to start this season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how truthful he was when he said he's playing with broken ribs because that doesn't sound great at all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's had opportunities to kind of step up and be that guy that he was for them last year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just not happening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He would have hit on

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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the longest passes of his entire career, which would have jump started this offense in that second half and he just dropped the football.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He came back on that same drive to make a great catch on the sidelines, which got a first down and helped them, but he basically dropped what was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: either going to be a score or a 40 to 50 plus yard play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so when you bet on yourself in that way and it doesn't actually work out for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And unless he has a really good second half to his season, you know, this is not going to be a great season for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's he's just too hurt and he's so slow right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you what do your thoughts on him because he's been such a good player for them and I don't even really want to criticize him for doing the thing that he was trying to do, which is as an NFL player in this insane NFL

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[SPEAKER_02]: players market like he's just trying to extend the the the life span of his career knowing where his body is going to end up being being such a physical receiver like what do you what have you thought about his season so far after everything that happened with the whole doubt and such.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's going awful for him because like you say, they, the way they position to him is he is definitely in a prove it year and it hasn't he hasn't proved much and it's not to do do to any fault of his own, but what.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will continue to say about the office and that's 2025 as it relates to John Jennings, is it is a cautionary tale of what happens when you in good faith go out there when your money is not secured and then you get injured and you guess what they are not going to take care of you despite the injury note is that now I don't know that they were willing to

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[SPEAKER_00]: give him anything near what he expected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it definitely wasn't going to happen once near the hamstring injury came about that was it was a wrap on what that was and then it says a lot about him and it's it's well it's a tricky conversation because at that point

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know it's approved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're so do you just strapped it up and go out there with it seems like he is doing or do you just wait and get healthy and then at whatever point you are Really healthy enough to play you go out there and put the best tape possible out there and it's a you know It can be a damned if you do damned if you don't

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[SPEAKER_00]: either way, because if you go out there like he is now all banged up and you're not productive, nobody, you know, is great and you want to curve because you went out there hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just looking at the fact that your numbers aren't what they were.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you play that game and you just wait until you get healthy, then you get ding for not being able to go out there and play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a damned if you do damned if you don't situation and that's what I'll always remember about this to want genuine situation is it's just he is really in a no win position at this point and then what happens at the end of this year when he's a free agent and it comes time to you know get his money and you I'm looking at the receiving stats and it's like you know Kendrick Bourne is right there

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[SPEAKER_00]: So who gets the most money in a contract at this point between those two as free agents?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just going to be a very, very, it's going to be a very interesting offseason for Joanne Jennings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would imagine teams look at them similarly, like the style of player that they are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jennings is, you know, if you have a, he's better for the nine or system because of their, their running game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, you we've seen Kendrick born get loose in situations where Joanne Jennings has not been able to get loose.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So to that extent, like if you bring a guy back, do you take Kendrick born for less money than then JJ, you probably do at this point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're pinched pennies like 49ers or pinched pennies, they had another receiver debut.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jordan Watkins, he had a he kind of had a moment where it was like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Mac Jones is they're trying to come back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have a little bit of time left Mac Jones is putting a ball in his hands and I think he jumped a little early and it went through his hands and the 49ers where we're done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, you see him on the field and you're like, oh great, I wonder what they're gonna do with him and they didn't, you know, this was late in the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not exactly sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: what his reps were.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We did see a little bit more of to Marcus Robinson than we've seen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We saw some sky more out there late as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I guess it was good to see Jordan Walkins finally on the field.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you kind of wonder,

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[SPEAKER_02]: At this point, the Niners are five and three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they are very much in this playoff picture.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But if you had a Jordan Watkins versus Skymore Battle right now, who gets more reps, I think we'd all want to see Jordan Watkins get the reps even in special teams.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I do hope that they make a decision to kind of give him some opportunities.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Unlike,

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[SPEAKER_02]: in the past when you know Jacob Cowling would be out there for like, you know, a screen pass and then that's it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do hope that they try and do something because it does seem like he has different skill sets than the current guys that they have, the current, you know, veteran receivers that they do have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it seems like he's got some skill sets they could try to take advantage of, but we know how Shanahan is with rookie receivers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just like maybe his least

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[SPEAKER_02]: But do you think that, you know, they're going to try and do some stuff with him?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, would you like to see him get an opportunity to play?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because what they put on the field today, you know, I can't imagine he does much worse with the opportunities that a lot of those guys had today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: we are making decisions between either trading for veteran, you know, journeymen type players or playing these young dudes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I say we play the young dudes and just see what we've got with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That makes more sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You heard Kyle talk this week about what they are looking for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They would like to trade for

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, young players with us, I will.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wouldn't everybody, but who's trading young players with us, I want why if they're young and they've got upside, why would the team that they're trading, you trading, why would the trading team trade them and also if they are trading them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to assume that in that case, they know more than you know, and you probably should be wary about making that trade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he's young and he's got upside, but they're willing to trade him off for, you know, a draft pick that should probably make you, you know, if nothing else be extra diligent with your prep before you make that trade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And with you on that one, I would just assume see what Jordan Watkins has to offer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got to say that, you know, again, we're all these young players that you can make any sort of, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: long-term decisions based on what happens this year, positively or negatively, if positively dominant puny is a test case, again, I've been telling people all off-season that grossing development is not linear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, everybody just thought, well, after that good rookie season, he's on his way to all pro.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, a lot can happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in a second year of players trip on the way to all pro.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're seeing it play out now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does that mean to Dominic Coney won't eventually be a good player?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but it does mean that when a first-year player to to expect a first-year player to just continue a steady ascent up to

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[SPEAKER_00]: to their prime is just that's just not how football or life works, you know, so you have to understand that they're going to be peaks and valleys with all of these dudes and I would just assume the young dudes get their valleys out of the way to whatever that you can control that by just giving them reps and letting them play and letting them figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, again, I don't want to say in a low-stake situations, but they're not going to get

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[SPEAKER_00]: any better sitting on the bench I believe than they can with being out there on the field and even if that means making mistakes that, you know, a lot in a lot of times in life and in football, you make you make your biggest gains after, you know, stretching mistakes unfortunately and you know, they just need to be able to get out there and play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so yeah, that I would be an advocate for that is just let's, you know, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We want to everybody wants to go trade for a 31 year old defensive experience defensive and I just don't know who would probably get hurt in his first game with 49ers would see right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you look at all these dudes that they're talking about trading for like Henderson, he was on the injury report this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't, I wouldn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would just, you know, if you

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[SPEAKER_00]: a draft pick if you can trade a draft pick for somebody with the rationale that this dude has NFL experience and he is equivalent to something that you would get in next year's draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do that, but I'm not trading for like the Malik Collins is or the those, the darn keys or those kind of, I'm good on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just just don't like the young guys play

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[SPEAKER_02]: do should they try and trade for some depth though like it like you know we're talking about the ardent key guys with the idea that well they're going to be an upgrade from some of the younger players so what if we don't even have the younger players because everyone's hurt do you at least need a little bit of these maybe better second stringers so that you can put NFL quality players on the field at this point

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would be low to try to trade anything above like a six round pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I could get somebody like an R&K for a seven round round pick or a six round pick, I'm just not interested in being in the business of trading draft picks that should turn into players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That you can have on cheap money deals for four years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: at this particular point and because none of these but while I agree with you we need

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[SPEAKER_00]: replacement level NFL players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't want to get them at the cost of the future at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you got guys like Eric Hendrix that are out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm interested in those guys, guys who are the Eagles decided to sign Brandon Graham back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that's a very,

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[SPEAKER_00]: with experience that I would scour the earth for those guys first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It the ones you could sign for no money or trade, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: what I like to call a lot of pick draft pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, sevens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we got rock pretty on a seven round pick, but that was more of a dart throw than if you know about a scouting bracket, and thought, well, he could be one day we could pay him $181 million.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was don't you can you can try to pretend that somebody saw that, but that's crazy, especially when you look at

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[SPEAKER_00]: turns into him, you know, that reaffirms, that was a dark throw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what those, you know, late round picks are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you want to forego a dark throw to get somebody that you know can come in and help you, because I

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[SPEAKER_00]: he ain't great shakes, but R&K is a professional football player and he is better than anything else that we're trying out there right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No disrespect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike Hill Williams and Alfred Collins, but R&K is a better football player than both of those guys are right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does that mean they won't be better than him at some point?

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[SPEAKER_00]: not at all, but not today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They aren't better than him today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like you say at this point, we need guys that can play next week because it is it's um because you look at the record.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's bad as today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, this is not over by a long shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Any five or three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look at the rest of the league, somebody that is as good or maybe even worse than us

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, let's talk a little bit about Brock and then we'll get out of here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Brock is it's been this whole thing early in the week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is he going to play is he not going to play by the late in the week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nope.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not going to play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think last week they said.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He may have worked out before the game or maybe late in the week, and it was just like, nope, no go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they had this game on turf next week in New York or at the Giants on turf.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the following week would be the Rams at home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that seems to be like a nice date to circle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But what if he doesn't play that game?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're kind of doing this dance of like at what point can you even rely on him to come back because so what they said was they said then now I don't understand this injury at all because basically what they said is when they put him back on the field in that Jaguars game the only thing that would have re-hurt his toe or maybe made it worse is if.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the the angle in which it was hyper extended the first time if that happened again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then he then you're putting him at risk and supposedly it happened again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's part to understand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it just like bad luck or is it because it was hurt the first time it's easier for it to to get in that same spot again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's part of the science that I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then they said.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Curve versus grass doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just the way that the angle in which his toe gets hyper-expended again is what matters.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm so confused about what this injury actually means, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: If he's not back by that Rams game, like then can you even rely on him for the rest of the season like you look at Joe Burrows it sounds like Joe Burrows injury was a little bit worse, but still they just ice they pretty much said he's he's on injured reserve or he's going to miss most of the season or whatever from from jump street and the nighters didn't say that about Brock like he's kind of weak to weak.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now here we are, you know, is he not going to play until week 10, like that's kind of interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if he doesn't play during week 10, then can you rely on him for at all for the rest of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, Ferro had the surgery and like you said, they, he is out until mid December, if at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then they made that call immediately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, I understand it's like a strange type of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there are degrees of it, but they had a doctor once who had turf toe and she like was walking, you know, she was like on those little knee scooters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Walking around so she wouldn't even use the foot, you know, because the way she explained to me is it really is just like a flexion injury and it just hurts anytime your big toe flexes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So think about that walking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's, you know, for her was, she, it was painful for her to even walk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, but let's, if, if you can't walk around your job, you know, playing NFL football is um, that's a high bar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's going to be interesting that, you know, now we are, we're four weeks since he's last played and it doesn't seem like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's any end, there's no way to keep plays on that infamous metal ants turf.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even if he had a bang up practice week, I doubt they would put him out there for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then so like you say that means the Rams at the earliest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can easily see where if it's not there, you probably don't play him in Arizona.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, I mean, it gets to the point where do we even see him before the buy even.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's, that's, you know, I, but I, that's it, Mac is playing well and I is so late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would do, but I would just assume wait until Brock is, you know, they can

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[SPEAKER_00]: fully, whatever that means, and just get him ready for the stretch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think Mack is played well enough as much as I, you know, joust with the fans over there, irrational love for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that he can, he's been, he's been playing well enough that whatever it's going to be, is probably

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[SPEAKER_00]: better than a compromised Brock and special and even if it's not better in air quotes, when you factor in the notion that like we happen with Jacksonville that putting him back to out there too soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: we could risk losing him for the rest of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you factor that into the mix, I just believed that it's best to be as cautious as possible with him and just keep trying back out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what I don't understand is why we have just decided that we'd rather have Adrian Martinez and anybody else in the world who has possibly taken,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and in the field snap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where's Nate Suttfield?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel a lot more comfortable with that even then.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I might take Nate Montana at this point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How old is Nate Montana?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Adrian Martinez, no disrespect to that young guy, but that is just a scary proposition that, you know, Matt is like one hit away from the Adrian Martinez show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, I don't think we want Nate Montana.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nate Montana's 36 years old that that speed failed really well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who is taking Montana's kid?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, yeah, yeah, exactly, where's the third generation Montana?

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so the Niners play the Giants next week and another early game for us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... cam scatobogos out today with a really nasty ankle disability awful uh... and you know jackson dart the uh... the second coming uh... you know they're there they are stressed still struggling they got boat race by the eagles today they're two and six so this is again that the nine are even in their most beat up state

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[SPEAKER_02]: should go in there and win, but this is also kind of in a house of horrors for them, injury-wise, so I don't even know what to think about this game quite yet until I know who's going to be healthy and who's not going to be healthy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I can't imagine they want pretty Ricky coming back his first game back from injury on a field like this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You price save him for the ramies when

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[SPEAKER_02]: They kind of have to win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You cannot lose your second straight game here to a team that is just getting smoked by some of these other teams.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they had a, it's a fucking find it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was looking at their numbers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, it looks like I'm out of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, um, they, you know, they're not really playing competitively in a lot of these games, like they're, they're two wins, they had an impressive win over the Eagles three weeks ago, which is kind of what they're hanging their hats on, but they lost to the Saints by two touchdowns.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They they had they they let the Broncos come back and score 30 some odd points in the fourth quarter last week Eagle score 38 this week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is clearly a game that the Niners needs to just kind of utilize in the same way that maybe the Texans utilize the Niners this week as a kind of get back to normal game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, but I just I don't trust them going into New York on that field.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It just feels like a house of horse to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not making any.

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[SPEAKER_02]: predictions necessarily other than it's kind of like a game that they have to win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But without the rookie scatterbow going out and Jackson Dart, it just seems like, you know, you can probably rattle him similarly to the way that you rattle pennies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think they should win this game, but after today's showing, like nothing is certain for me right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is, um, it's, and you, it ends up happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I tried to be the voice of reason when the Falcons were coming in and everybody was talking about how, you know, what a game that was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was like, yes, they had beat Buffalo the week for, but they had lost to the Falcons already in the season 30 to nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have to look,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a totality like they talk about any given Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These are professional football players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yes, any of them are capable of having a great performance any week and you could be the unlucky recipient of their best performance of the year and lose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to, you know, we're still talking about what the giants did three weeks ago and not talking about these lasted performances where, you know, they basically given up, like Jan, and going 70 points over the last two weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would think this could be a get-right game for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, on the other hand, I know that they have their defense has some really

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, I blew Carter and Brian Burns and K. Juan Tibodil are going to be fighting and arguing over who's going to line up over top of the Kibodil because there were several times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's no disrespect to Kibodil because we'll Anderson is one of the best past verses in the league with there several times, where he just like ran literally just ran right around the Kibodil because he just like he was like a traffic cone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It really wasn't

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[SPEAKER_00]: even fair and the Giants have three of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's one of those things where when you look at the statistic that they're giving up, this would be a place where you think Matt could get back on track and have a good passing game, but then you could also see where they just make it

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[SPEAKER_00]: Houston Texans were not able to, they were able to pressure him, but you know, and they got a few like hellish hits on him, but I, they, the 49ers, you know, either by running it or whatever, not even running because that was not, well, running Matt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: more to that point, we're able to not get him hit as much as I thought they would this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's, you know, I'm looking at the stats this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they, um, the Eagles worry for the, they can, they hit dark six times and they sacked him five times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, and, you know, mobility is supposed to be his calling car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, again, maybe we can get some pressure on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we should be able to beat them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think I think we'll be favored and maybe we can go in there and get right back on track I would not like to come home five or four Which the ramps coming in the town know that that would be like the worst case scenario

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so next week we have another morning game and if we can, we will live stream after that game will sort of work that schedule out and tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I won't have a live stream.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to try and get a hold of a Jared Seidler from baseball perspective and talk about the Tony Vatello signing from his analytics brain of baseball and see what he thinks about the giants going into the college ranks to get the raw raw guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Brian and I will also be back at some point this week talking

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it was I, um, trying to be quiet because my sister and law is a different nugget.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't want to be disrespectful in her house, but, um, stuff was shimmy in and I was shimmy in and it was, it was, uh, there's nothing quite like

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[SPEAKER_00]: more than ever before, just really relishing what he is meant to us in the team and I am in every time that he goes off this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I hope to be there and I hope to wait and sit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just I am so appreciative of that do not a good times that he's given us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I can't can't miss any games for for the while he's doing this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you just got to watch him all just in case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just I, um, on the side now, I watched freaky tales again and it was, you know, I have you seen it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for those who haven't, it, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: to tell it's an anthology movie set in Oakland in 1987, which is like my peak earlier in Florida, and SIGVIA was my guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, it is historical fiction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you ever see it, you know, I don't think, you know, SIGVIA was doing all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what it led me to believe the night after I was all my morning after I was on my walk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it just had that movie had me reflecting

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[SPEAKER_00]: as a 15 year award your fan, then I could not even imagine for championships in my lifetime.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just that was just not in the cards of 15 year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even, you know, I would have to, it got so bad at a certain point that I would have to like pick like a playoff team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because, you know, we weren't going to do anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And from a picketing, so, you know, I just say that to say this era of warriors basketball, even if obviously it's at the tail and it's something that I will, you know, cherish, because I was there when...

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was just, um, you know, you couldn't even imagine you couldn't imagine it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My buddy, uh, sheed from Boyer's world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He calls Jimmy, Dremon, Steph, and Al Horford.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He calls them, Uncle, nation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, it's, uh, they're going to have games like they did against Portland,

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[SPEAKER_02]: We did not want to run up and down the core with these young books like, well, you know, we'll we'll get some rest here after the fact, but then be prepared to beat a Denver and, you know, they have interesting back-to-back on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's Grizzlies and Clippers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that's part of this process this year, to see which games they get up for, which games they kind of have punt because of, you know, the way that the schedule works and how you want to keep your guys

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[SPEAKER_02]: In those games that they may try to punt, then that's when you see Jonathan Kaminga and Will Richard and Brandon Pajemsky and those guys get opportunities to play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's even some solace in in those games that the vets are not maybe going to play, you know, their full lotment of minutes because you could see those guys, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: Alrighty, that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We will read your review live on air.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Give you props.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For Rod, I am WG, we will see you when we see you piece out.