Giants Beat LA: Taking Series from Dodgers & Marlins | Thompson 2 Clark

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're back with Thompson to Clark here after a four and two Giants home stand, which ended in winning the last two games of the series against the marlins, but started by winning two out of three from the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I was in Dallas during that Dodger series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So right, it was coming back from dinner and a night out with the colleagues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Turn it on mlb.tv and watch in the end of the two the two night games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't get to see the game that they actually lost because that was happening while I was in the office, but those were super fun games and it was kind of one of those things where as you're watching it, you're like, if they are good or if they

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[SPEAKER_00]: can compete.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These are the way that they're going to win baseball games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a 3-1 and 3-0 or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what were the scores those days?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, I don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think something like number a week ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll look at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I've got, you know, I was looking to try to figure out, you know, in the last like 10 games, Giants are seven and three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they're smashing the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three to one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: three to zero, and then they lost that day game three to zero.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they outscored the Dodgers something like six to four over the three games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And while on one end you can look at it and go, well, they sure is hectic and score very many runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that has kind of been the way that they they can win some of these games is just the starting pitching is lights out

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, save for 2021 when they're hitting so many home runs that we were like, oh my gosh, like, what is this team like the way that they used to win ball games is kind of what Buster said, right, pitching in defense and clutch hitting and that that's how they beat the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm not saying that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, Dodgers watch out here we come or anything because they still have a lot of things to do and we'll talk about kind of the unsung heroes to this recent stretch as well as guys who if the giants are going to get better and either two games under 500 so you know as as has been if you play 500 baseball close to the end of the season you have a shout at the at the wild card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, it just felt like during those two games that I was watching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, okay, this is like giant space ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is how it feels to play giant space ball, to do so against the Dodgers made it even better, and then I was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: These guys need to be so greedy right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They need to go for the throat and then they're just like, now we're good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're good with winning too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't care about this third game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though Dalton rushing was antagonizing all there is long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still antagonizing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not there antagonizing other players today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember what team they were playing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I sent you a little clip where you called somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's somebody stole a base on and he called him in a fat F. Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy's a barrel of laughs this guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He stole the base on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't throw him out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of, I think it was like a bobbled pitch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he dropped it and then took forever to go down and pick it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And by the time he picked it up, he realized the guy had taken off from first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then got into second base, he threw down there and didn't get him in time and he called him at a fat F for stealing a base on him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Miguel Amaya from the, from the Cubs, that's who we called.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So sweet, sweet guy this dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That sounds like a great guy that I don't rush.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think Logan Web thinks he's a pretty great guy too because he put one right in his ribcage at the end of that series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's slip though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think

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[SPEAKER_00]: sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I threw it, that's what I would say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because Logan Web said, hey, what the somebody asked him about the junk who least stuff and he said, what junk who least stuff?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know anything about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so, you know, let's focus a little bit on that series because the Dodgers,

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[SPEAKER_00]: either they're going through their own issues with injuries and stuff and like I don't feel it's bad for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to talent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Giants caught them in a nice situation, but they did go out and win two games against their two aces.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did beat Yamamoto scoring all of their runs in the one inning and they didn't score

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[SPEAKER_00]: they did, they did get to the bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we all had this, I was my stream was at least 10 seconds ahead of you guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you would let me know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was like, okay, if I text them something, I had to like count 10 Mississippi before He had to hold it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, so so Patrick Bailey comes up runners on left hand or up And we were all like, oh man, these first two swings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This dude's just dude's going to whiff And when he hits the ball out of the ballpark for the three on home run

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had the text just in writing and I just had to wait to send it and I think you had actually said something and I was like, okay, he saw it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that was another moment where it's just like, for whatever reason, Bailey hits these clutch home runs and then

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other ninety nine out of a hundred times he just looks so pitiful at the plate, but in that moment, I was like, man, you know, this guy really gets it, I just wish he could get it a little bit more hitting wise, but another, he saves it, he saves it for the big moments though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was a fantastic moment to just watch that and go, wow, that was amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So stuff like that just makes you just sucks you right back into Giants baseball, even even when they're playing poorly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they, they bring in the Marlins and that first game does not go very well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They actually get behind on Sunday, very early landed group.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then he shuts the door down, allows them to come back and case he Schmidt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He of the, the base, base running blender comes up clutch and he's hitting jacks and they come back and they win that game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there is fight in the spaceball team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jung who leaves had an amazing week and then some like he's actually been hidden very well for a little bit more than a week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you got guys like Drew Gilbert who are up and, you know, Harrison Bader, I almost forgot Harrison Bader was on the team because he's injured, but it's almost like he didn't do anything when he was on and when he was playing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So seeing something positive happened with with the outfielders and hitting is as is great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it looks like Bader will probably be up or be back, you know, in the next week or so, it sounds like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, they'll have to figure out what they're going to do there, but man, would you want to send

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if he could stay on as the fourth outfielder, I think you've got something because Drew Gilbert is just nasty against, against righties.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so if you can, if you can work and try to get him in there against righties, whenever you can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know I mean you signed beta for a couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have to keep somebody who's hot up, and so I think you can maybe do some sort of platoon with Bader and Gilbert because you got the lefty and you got the righty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The problem is the majority of pictures you're going to see are going to be right handed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Bader's not going to play a lot if you end up doing a platoon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you've got to get Bader going because he is such a big part of the defensive shift for the

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the outfield that they went towards in the off season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got to really work that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't just have Baderis sitting on the bench.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think you're having Drew Gilbert because Drew Gilbert can spell some guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can play some right field for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can play some centering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can play some left if you need him too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if there's a game where you've got a right hander in there and you do want to give Bader a day off, you've got Drew Gilbert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you have to leave him up also because of

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[SPEAKER_01]: his clubhouse attitude and I think he meshes well with the rest of the team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They like having them up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got a spark at the end of last season when he came up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think he's your fourth outfielder when Bader comes back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and he's a vitalo guy, which we talked about early in the season, him being comfortable with his players and it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When the giant's lose, and Vatello says something wacky, I get kind of irritated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when they win, and he says something wacky, I think it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's exactly, I'm sure that's a lot of people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you're getting to know his personality a little bit more as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the same thing, like I sent you a little quote that he had, I think it was yesterday or two days ago when he said, you know, the strategy for For Casey Schmidt, because he got thrown out a couple times rounding the second base, the strategy for him is hit it out of the ballpark so they can't pick you off, you know, back pick you off a second base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I thought it was pretty funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he took a little dig at Drew Gilbert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, saying basically, I think somebody hit a ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was definitely a hit a ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, what had been out most ball parks, and he said, and then Gilbert comes up and hits one, and you think, you had just kind of dies out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, he was taking a dig at him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was having a good time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he did say in an interview, I think with them,

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[SPEAKER_01]: with the Pavlovitch recently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did say that he does have team chemistry with all the guys now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he sounds way more comfortable in post-gamers, way more comfortable in talking about the guys and their abilities and their shortcomings and everything else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I started thinking about today, how far off are we from that weird

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh professor that he held where he just kind of aired himself out about how he got hired and how everybody found out about him getting hired.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was just so far past that it was such a huge story at the time and you know, the media grabbed it and ran with it again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were in spring training so everybody needed stories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh but but we're so far off of that now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is actually kind of fun to listen to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, to end the same thing with Bob Melvin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when the Giants lose, I don't necessarily want to hear what the manager has to say, because I'm kind of irritated at the game already, and I don't want to hear about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to hear about what they could have done, what they need to do better, and all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm watching the games, I don't know exactly what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, but getting those fun nuggets after they win, those are always good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do enjoy those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have J. H. Jung-Hoo Lee, hitting the heck out of the baseball, Casey Schmidt, base running errors, but still hitting the heck out of the baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: ramos hits a home run into right field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you have land and root, getting through some adversity, you know, you give up a three run home run with the, the, the giants current offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, almost like, oh my gosh, this game might be over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for him to just battle back and like, almost like I never happened and just shut that in Ghost Sebb was a seven and two thirds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe so yeah, I got into the seventh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and, and then, you know, gives way to Eric Miller so they can shut that game down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was impressive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, Rupert is the third guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, he's not the fifth guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's very clear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, he's the third most important starting pitcher Tyler Malay who doesn't, like, I can't figure out how he held the touches at bay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So much is based on the stuff and the, and the speed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But hey, welcome to this rivalry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You pitched your way into some respect by being able to do that against Sootani and the likes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, you know, Houser is not there yet, but we would have said the same thing when Molly or Molly pitched against the reds, you know, the couple starts to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe he can come back and pick it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, when you, when we kind of,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I don't have to go back and listen to what we said, but I was pretty like, when Buster was like, yeah, you know, we're going to, and I think this was more of the beat reporter saying what the strategy was, which is essentially, they're not going to pay a lot of money for back end starters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have their top two, and then they believe Roop is going to be a guy, and so they're going to pick up two starters on the cheap and give them opportunities to

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that idea works if these guys can compete, like Mali did, houses competed before he just couldn't get through the fifth inning because of defensive mistakes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if those guys, if they are so inconsistent, then you're just, you just can't wait to get back to the top three guys in the rotation and then you're like, worrying about, oh man, how are we setting up the rotation against these other teams?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't like to think of it that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Historically, when you think about the giant, you're like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Vogelsong is like the fifth guy, and yet I like to see Vogelsong pitch just as much of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See Matt Kane pitch like, you know, that we have to get back to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope we do get to see some consistency for those guys because

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[SPEAKER_00]: when you when you look at the rotation and you look at the matchups against the other teams, I do feel like, oh no, it's a malle game or it's a house or game and I don't want to feel like that, but I think that's kind of what they created until those guys pitch better than they have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably too early, but I'm starting to think of like, oh, trade deadline is coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the giants have three strong starters and they're cutting, you know, middling around with the fourth and fifth starter, uh, even though they sign, was it Mali to a two year deal, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Mali's on a two and houses on a one from what I remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you still have room to have a, you know, a true fourth starter, and then those guys can battle it out for the fifth, whoever's pitching well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then you move one guy to the bullpen for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that's not, you know, why they signed them, there was probably talk before hand that these guys wanted to be starters and that's what they are gonna be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know what, you got to perform in some major leagues against the promise of job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And same thing with Luis O'Riz,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't doing well as a defensive second basement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to have a talk with him at some point and say, look, this is not working for the best of the team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to do something else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Luckily, he's been extremely surprising.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of the best defensive second basement metric-wise in all of Major League Baseball so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't have to have that conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which is great and and so I think I think you have to start to kind of look at the trade deadline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You also have to start to look at, you know, there's guys in the minors who are on minor league deals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The the month is coming up here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of these guys veterans will sign minor league deals with with the hope of and and the

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[SPEAKER_01]: the agreement of being, I think usually by May 1st, if they're not on the major league roster, they can become free agents.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's usually worked into a lot of those contracts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So pretty soon, about a week, less than a week, we might start seeing some guys that are available to try out and maybe they grab them and bring them over to on a minor league deal to Sacramento and see what they can do and say, hey, look, you know, we're

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're having problems with the fourth and fifth starters, we could use you to give a little push and maybe work your way out of the roster and see how it goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure there's a lot of veterans who would love to pitch at Oracle, get some good numbers back, finish out the season with the giants and then work that into deal for next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have any of those names in the moment, but either way it usually happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then when Web becomes Logan Web again, and then you've got a really nasty one, two, three, and we kind of thought this might happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We did not think that Logan Web was gonna be this rough to begin this season, but we always thought if Landon Group could be that guy, we could have a pretty nasty one, two, three, and then if Mali could be that guy, we could have a nasty one, two, three, four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then worry about the fifth later on, but, but, you know, as soon as Web gets back on track and the bullpen is doing such a good job right now, I think you just kind of have to write the pitching, but and I know the giants were winning like three nothing games and three one games and everything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're going to be a contender, you also have to win seven to six ball games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't, you know, there's going to be those games where like on Friday night, where the marlins come out and score, you know, frigging four or five runs right off the bat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you got to come back from that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the Giants did come back from a three nothing deficit yesterday and scored six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think this is going to happen every night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But but you have to be able to win every type of ball game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you look at the red socks and they, they're clean in house, man, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they've scored 25 more runs at the Giants have scored the second lowest number of runs in all of baseball, you know, the other thing, and you kind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: they're not going to be able to be a good team if we believe that they could be a good team without those guys having big years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I harkin' back to, you know, my buddy, Jarrett comes on when Brad is on vacation from time to time and he works for baseball

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[SPEAKER_00]: the money and the length of that deal, you know, on the back end of that deal, it's going to be terrible, but for the beginning of that deal or for the front end of that deal, it should be really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, the one worry, though, is Devers' bat speed is like just ticking downward every year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought about that, and I was like, yeah, you know, that would be tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you see the

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[SPEAKER_00]: these pitchers are like, well, we're going to put it built high level 98 because we know you can't touch it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like you just see him winding up and he's swinging hard and he's just behind on these pitches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, there are some, it looks like he's starting to get around a little bit better on some of those, but that was in the back of my head when Jared said that because, you know, he, that is what baseball perspective is they look at those kind of things and they measure those kind of things so that's going to be something that's going to be interesting to watch is how diverse gets pitched he's talked about making some adjustments working with the hitting coaches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he's going to be able to do this all or nothing swing, you know, every pitch like he does today, a Domus as well, you know, a Domus, you know, Buster Posey talked about the idea of a two strike approach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and how he wants the team to adapt a little bit more of like, hey, we need to put the ball in play here because a strikeout is a really bad scenario here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we actually need to force the defense to do something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you see a Domus, he has an appetite,

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[SPEAKER_00]: for a fastball above his letters and he has no prayer touching it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a bad, that's actually a bad plan of attack from him is just, you know, he sees these fastballs and he gets so lit up for them and he's not coming close to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And guess what, the other team knows this, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's going to have to be a little bit more disciplined, and I would love to see what that knew what that approach could be for both Devers and Adamus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you don't want them to all of a sudden, you know, become Mike Benjamin with two strikes or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a nice call back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's yeah, that's a wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was, I thought you're going to bring up more carry on next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you're just dying to make contact and had no just like no chance of hitting them all with fence, but you know that what could they do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it going to be is it bad or are they thinking like, man, you know, if I get into this two strike approach and I'm just putting that on ball, you know, maybe I'm hitting into double plays or maybe that is part of it, but I like I watch it Domus and when he gets two strikes, I'm thinking like the picture and I'm

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[SPEAKER_00]: he's getting a fastball up on his letters and he's not gonna be able to touch it and he's absolutely gonna swing at it like I wouldn't throw any other pitch and some of that as we know our guys better than maybe some of these other teams but same with same with divers like I'm just like man,

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[SPEAKER_00]: fastball in the happy zone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you got enough velocity on it, his eyes get big and he's swinging, but he's late and that's not, you know, and you're probably striking them out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So those things have to be better for the giants to be good because these other guys, these unsung heroes, like you called them when we were chatting about this, like Junghu,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if Jungkook could hit 300 and maybe set the table a little bit, it's going to be fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But guess what, if your best player is hitting 215 and strikes out 230 times, you're probably not making the playoffs no matter how well-jung who plays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or if Adamus, if his batting average dips so far below, and he doesn't have the power numbers, there's just not enough stuff that

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, some of these other guys who were expecting to kind of spark things, there's not enough that they could do to fill in those numbers that you expect from those big players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is going to be really the key to them getting back into this thing is their stars playing like stars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, and you know what, if the other guys are really coming around, like, junk who Lee and Casey Schmidt, if they're really arguing to continue to play like this, which I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're, those are two streaky guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're, they're going to fall off at some point and come back and do the same thing again later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, you got to have the other guys hitting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and, and that's what I was talking about too, like you've got to win a seven to six ball game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to be a contender, you can't go down six, six, two, and then say, well, that's the ball game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, if you got guys like Devours and Chapman and Adomas and Ramos, you should be able to say, well, one of those guys could hit a three run home run and put us right back in this ball game, two run home run, back to back home runs, it can happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just looking at,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, because on baseball, so they do now have that bad tracking stat, which is kind of cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and, and, and Devours is only off point two miles per hour this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and, and, and 23, 24 and 25.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a 71 point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I give a 71 point six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, 71.4 miles an hour, all three of those years, and now he's 71.2 miles an hour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's off just to touch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And still squaring up, swinging percentage, 21.8% which is an exact same as every year since as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of, yeah, it's kind of odd to see why

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, why is he so off?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why is he not squaring up fastballs?

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of his metrics are the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he just swinging over pitches and just under pitches?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is it that's happening?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what do we talk about all offseason?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, this is the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Thomas had a slow start last year because it was his first year with the Giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's the second year with the Giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to come out of the gates hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Devers, it's his first full year with the Giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to come out of the gates hot and we

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[SPEAKER_01]: And and Adomas did heat up a little bit in the lead off spot, but they moved them out of that because they give them a day off yesterday and and junk who Lee had four hits in the lead off spot, so I think that's our new lead off hitter and my default right I mean a guy leads off and gets four hits and one of them is triple and I think he had a double and is so if he's also leading off and getting an extra base hits.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that's fantastic because you don't have to single and then try to steal base because that's not who jungle who Lee is right now he's not a base dealer and what we thought he was gonna be we thought we're gonna see like 20 to 30 stone bases a year at a jungle Lee I think we're gonna get 10 maybe yeah so if he can get extra base hits and that lead off spot that's great but yeah I I don't know the answer to divers but what we do know

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[SPEAKER_01]: he has the track record to hit 30 home runs a season maybe 40 home runs in a season but we just have to see you know as an injury I don't know I mean we're not being told and we're not going to be told he's going to heat up at some point that we're going to forget about all of this but we just we don't want it to be as giant fans we don't want it to be too late that's the problem yeah

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[SPEAKER_00]: the the thing that I think we're going to start hearing if he does not play better is this idea that is he in shape is he not in shape and you know he's got a very specific body type we are not here to body shape anybody but you know as you get older the idea uh we saw with Pablo right now Devres is not as as big as Pablo was when he kind of let himself go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But to be in shape versus not in shape as you get older, like that's that's tough to kind of fight back from as you get older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you also see, you know, we thought he would be okay for space, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, there's some plays that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: any other first baseman probably wouldn't make and he doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, it's going to be the placeholder spot, and then if the elder just does come up this season, does, does, does, differs and become in the DH because of, you know, again, the body type, the first base, the athleticism.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And not so much that, it's also more his first full season of first base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's an experiment still and so far it's going okay, it's not fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you can move them to the DH spot, that's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, it's Casey Schmidt right now, much better first base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... before we get to a look at what's going on this week with their schedule they don't play tonight as a recording their infilladelfia uh... to start their road trip but i wanted to update uh... you know and heard a lot about some of these injuries uh... jolpegaro

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[SPEAKER_00]: he is pitching in Sacramento and he's given up four runs over five and a third innings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the Perthie Giants website.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a six rehab appearances.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like they expect him to return before the All Star Break.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very generic right now as far as how what win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sam Hentges, Hentges, he is also expected to return sometime in the first half of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He threw three scoreless innings in his first three rehab appearances in AAA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is updated as of, got the middle of last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Daniel Sousac, who was the hottest hitter on the team, and then he had this elbow situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it looks like he's going to be out until sometime in May, probably closer to the middle of May, the original diagnosis was he was going to miss two to three weeks because of a sore elbow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then our guy, and that's not a surgery thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's a surgery.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sound like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jose Buto, he's got the auxiliary artery and as upper right arm issue, he went, did a second surgery.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, he'll be lucky to be back this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So more than likely, you will not see him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it sounds like such a serious issue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of want to see him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: going to be safe on that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Beta, like we mentioned, he's got the sore hammy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He went on the 10 day, IL, uh, retroactive day, April 12th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it still sounds like late April or May with a hammy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a little bit of a hard one, especially as you get older because that thing could just

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[SPEAKER_00]: hang out and be a problem for you, longer than you, you believe, Jared Oliva, the left-risk Hammate fracture, he's going to be out until June.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually kind of interested in what they do with him because, you know, if Drew Gilbert is playing well and you have

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you could maybe cut in Kronocione and bring put him in that spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, or does he just get like, forgotten about is because this was really like an opportunity for him to play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They let Matosco who also got just recently got DFAed by Milwaukee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that was the move is like we need the speed and then they never used him and then all of a sudden he plays like one game and he has this injury with his wrist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So doesn't sound good, but I'm actually kind of interested if they do have plans for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think Christian cost has taken over as the guy who doesn't play, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's, that's his job now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can't, you can't have two of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can only have one of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you also have and Karnasioan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you got those, you got two guys that just don't play, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, actually, and Karnasioan is he.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he hurt?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't even remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is the thing, like when these guys are are not playing, I can't tell you what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's not on this injury list as far as I see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just don't think he's getting the abat so him and I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to start giving some of these guys some days off, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't have Chapman on his feet every single game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: William Domus got a day off, Luis Arise, hard to take that bad out of line up just because he's not a hard swinger, but he puts a ball in playing, gets hits, hitting over 300.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you're going to have to give some guys some some time off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just the bottom line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know what to do with Olivia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he has any options if he does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He'd be a good outfielder because the giants are really thin and AAA outfielters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you can send him down and he can give you some time and AAA that's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I think Gilbert's locked in now as your fourth outfield, or I think he's kind of won that job, especially if you got him against a righty in a matchup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And late in the game, too, if he comes off the bench and you got a situation where you've got two runners on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you've got a right handed reliever coming in and you've got Drew Gilbert on the bench.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is a nice weapon to have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, if you're looking at the future of this ball club,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of want Drew Gilbert to be the guy over Jarrod Aliva, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, absolutely, because you traded for him, you, you know, you, you, you traded with them at last year, uh, Tyler Rogers and, and you got back some pieces, and he was one of them, and he was one of the big pieces that came back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, yeah, you do definitely, but he is, he is a big part of the future of this ball club.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, Hayden Bertsong, he's uh, going to be out for the entire year with the Tommy

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... Jason fully uh... we don't really have an update on him that's any any anytime recent the the thought was sometime you know probably after the all-star break they had signed him with the idea that he was going to be gone for a little while anyways uh... and then ran randy rudry gezz

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think late 2026 is probably a little optimistic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would not expect it to be back this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the update on all of the folks who are hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's actually look at,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the upcoming road trip.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the giants, like I said, are in Philadelphia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they have three against the fillies and how about this for Thursday morning?

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[SPEAKER_00]: 10 a.m. 10 a.m. Who's up at 10 a.m. on a Thursday?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're up at five, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What time do you get up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get up at five three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm more of a 7 7 30.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I mean, I don't have to go in the office.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I had to go in the office, I'd be up much earlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When we don't have one, I don't have to go in the office.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, but normally, 530, but how, I was thinking about that too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How terrible is that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a Giants fan and you move to the East Coast, I know we probably have a lot of East Coast Giants fans,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, it was tough for me to be in Dallas, and I was only two hours ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or actually, yeah, it was two hours ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, it's

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[SPEAKER_00]: you guys are watching and it's about 930 in the end of these games and it's 1130 for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to be up anyways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was kind of nice to have a pat to be the last thing I do before I go to bed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was kind of cool in that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But another hour ahead on the East Coast and I would have been like dying to for this game to be finished.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I remember when I went to South Carolina for a conference when I first started at my job and it was around 2005.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And went over there and was watching the giant games at like an Irish pub until 11 p.m. Every night or no wait, the games would start at like 10, 10, 15, because that's when we had the 7, 15 starts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd be out there watching games till like, I don't know, in night 1 a.m. and then hop the tram back to the hotel and go to the conference five hours later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't go well, but you know, it wasn't an important conference, so it didn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then the rest of this road trip, at least for this week, is yeah, I guess they come back after the after this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you got Tampa, you got three in Tampa, they're back

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they, uh, I think it wasn't 100% ready.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why they started with such a long road trip to begin the season, uh, but then I think by the third week of the season, they were back in that place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, so yeah, so devours, devours used to hit there, right, you know, go there with Boston.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe maybe that'll get him going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that'll be nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the race games are late afternoon, Friday and Saturday and then 10, 40 AM on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And not to look too far ahead, but we get another opportunity to check out the Padre's the following week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the Pirates also come into town.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if we get skins in that series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think we touched up skins when we saw him last time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd be fine with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We will get to see Connor Griffin for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that'll be fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's starting to kind of heat up a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see him and skins and the young pirates here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're hitting a ball pretty well, so yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's always, you know, it's like you can get into the pirates, but then you're like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you really get into the pirates when you know that, you know, skin is going to be traded and not really, you know, the entire career in Pittsburgh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So nothing else to really hit on this week, uh, though, I guess my last thing for you is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the giants are a slightly better road team in this small sample size early season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're six and six in the road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're actually under 500 at home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Going into Philly, Philly has been struggling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not quite the met struggling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they and the met have been the two teams that have struggled that you thought we're going to compete this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: should be able to take advantage of that you would think, because, you know, you don't want to be the team that actually gets Philadelphia back on the, you know, back on the, the good side, Philadelphia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are, you know, last 10 there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've only won one game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The rays are actually playing really good baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that'll be a tougher series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A more of an interesting look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now the rays run differential is still in the negative.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are minus one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they've won four straight, 16 and 11.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're right behind the Yankees.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A game in and half behind the Yankees.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we know how poorly the chance played against the Yankees.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But hopefully that was a different giant steam and such.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what's interesting when you look at these early schedules,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know I know some blue jays fans and you know that they so badly

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[SPEAKER_00]: or wanting to like look at the Dodgers like we need to be able to you know to to be as good as a guys it is really hard to go be as consistent you know as you want to be and they have a good baseball team you know they they invested in starting pitching and but they're 12 and 15 the Orioles who we saw are 13 and 15 and they get the red socks at 11 and 17 so the once

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[SPEAKER_00]: super duper strong AL East is struggling right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's so funny to look at the AL West and like the A's the go go A's at 15 and 13 lead the AL West.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The central is almost, you know, the top two teams are almost at 500 guardians and the tigers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's not really outside of um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know the braves and even even the reds here though the reds are kind of doing it a little bit smoke and mirrors because they only have a plus one differential.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're 18 and 10.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cubs are playing really good baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So some early stuff for you like, oh, like I like those teams playing well Pittsburgh 16 and 12.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you look at the sale easier like, oh my gosh, these all these things are struggling so badly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's so fun to look at like standings early in the season knowing that they're probably not going to look this way for a while, but the giants are hanging in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 13 and 15.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are half a game above the Rockies and two and a half games behind the diamond backs who are playing solid baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, this is that time of year where you get you get a lot of 500 clubs and then all of a sudden you start to get the separation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think this is kind of a big trip for the giant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it really is because you're going to filly and then

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, kind of a jaunt south to go down to Tampa Bay, so it's kind of a big trip, you know, there's a lot of travel in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so if they can hold it together and be 500 on this trip or a little bit better than 500, I think that's great because they are starting to like you said to either the little better on the road than they are at home, but they started to really gel at home, and I think the crowd and the fans are really starting to kind of take to the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and again, he's more comfortable, uh, my milestone was 50 games and, and we're at 28 right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still got, you know, he's still got, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I'm 22 games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 22 games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a long day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I work in IT.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't do math.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I got 22 games left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is a big chunk of that, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This road trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So after about 50 games, I think we're going to see what type of team this is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you're also going to start to see again in 22 games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to be close to the end of May, middle of May, end of May.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of a telltale sign, too, is we start to, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: up a little bit, the weather gets warmer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You start to think about what can we do to, you know, to bolster this roster, or we in it, or we out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're 10 games under 500 at the 50, you know, game mark, then you start to think about the youth movement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're, you know, 10 games over 500 at that point, now you really start to think about, yeah,

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[SPEAKER_01]: What can we do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who do we have in the miners that could help the back end of this 26-man roster?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's a free agent out there, who can we start targeting?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because Bustroposi, as we saw last year, he's not afraid to make a move in late June early July.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's going to wait until the trade deadline if he thinks his team is in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he wants to jump the con and get somebody so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll end the baseball talk there, but if one more thing to ask you because Rod night did our 49ers draft recap on Saturday night and you know, neither of us are too happy with what the Niners said or the night or their explanations about what they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But your team on night one was the biggest bull's eye going with Tyson's QB

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[SPEAKER_00]: After, you know, an MVP season from your your old guy QB, I asked you about it on on the night that it happened, but you've had a few days to soak it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about tie Simpson in the first round?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think America just wanted a Simpson back in LA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I want it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that what they wanted?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I'm not really sure what the heck happened there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm starting as the more stuff I watch today and listen to today, I'm starting to warm up to it a little bit, um, I think, you know, it's one of those things I have read a couple things where less need and and Sean McBear very, very confident that they've got a roster right now that can win the Super Bowl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and, and it's one of those things where you, you, you draft a quarterback when you don't

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[SPEAKER_01]: your back's not up against the wall and you don't have to have a quarterback.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they like what they saw in Ty Simpson and they think that he can be the guy when Stafford hangs it up and after next year, after the year after that, get some time working with Stafford, working under McVeigh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know the whole narrative was at McVeigh was not

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[SPEAKER_01]: excited in the, in the, in the presser after the pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I get that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think, you know, the more I look at it, I think he's just, he's an emotional guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did not want to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't want to be over the top Sean McVey and show Matthew staffer that I'm really excited about this quarterback.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just, I'm so excited to have Ty Simpson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he is anyways, but also you got to remember two Matthew Stafford.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're still working on a contract extension.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think you want to show your hand and be like, hey, we got our next guy because then Stafford could say great and I'll take 50 million this year and then that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it was kind of a little more subdued because of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, again, I don't know much about Ty Simpson because he's only played in 15 games and I don't think a lot of people know a lot about him, but I did watch a thing with Kurt Warner from a week ago before the draft and he was praising him and he said there's some times he looks better than Mendoza.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if he could have played all four years, he could have been the number one pick, you know, because of the fact that he's

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[SPEAKER_01]: he makes so many NFL throws and that's a Alabama's NFL offense and he's pretty much, you know, kind of NFL ready for the most part, but you know, minus the 15 only 15 games, but but I don't know, pretty excited to have a quarterback.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not Jimmy Garoppolo, that's not Stetson Bennett, even though he still has Stetson Bennett, but it's nice to have somebody who might take over the rain someday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The rest of the draft was fairly solid, I've seen like B minus and C plus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know grades all around the Rams got another tight end because you know you can I barely you can never have enough tight ends but they run that 13 personnel so they have three tight ends on the field at the same time most of the time so and you're always going to have one guy banged up so why not have four why not have five so this is Jimmy Gebertary

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know, man, because what do you do if he decides to come back and he got four quarterbacks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I was Jimmy G, man, like that dude has made a lot of money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like historically, like one of the things that Shanahan feels like really down on him about is, you know, end of the season, Jimmy G kind of just like stops returning text messages because he likes his off season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he, you know, he's like, he's been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it in in the off season and so like I can imagine like You know life without football probably be pretty excellent for this guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I it's been an interesting I was like, you know, you don't need to get beat up any more man even if it is just a hold a clipboard But yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's the thing too is like you do What do you do is sets him bent it if you're the Rams then at that point because he was kind of Him and Simpson right now are gonna be competing for the number two job

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that makes sense too, because you can't just draft items and like, hey, you're a number two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to see what he's got.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you got to have a healthy competition in camp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it's all about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All righty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be it from here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be back next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully you have another winning week for the giants because if they can have enough, if they can have another foreign two week, they're back five hundred, which would be excellent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's going to be a little bit harder on the road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know a lot of people are upset because, you know, it's like I was a 500 club, 500 every year, every year, every year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're 500 in the first year, what a new manager has never managed or coached anywhere in the majors before, anywhere in professional baseball, you know, being close to 500 at this point of the season,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The alternative could have been pretty ugly, especially the way they started out this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like I said, there's seven and three in their last 10 games and the big boys have not heated up yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that, you know, that's a good good sign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be back next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for Brad, I am double G. We'll see when we see you peace out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Peace.