Giannis Antetokounmpo to Warriors Possibility + Trade Deadline Plans & Clark vs. Bueckers | Golden State Hoop

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a crazy time in the Warriors' current scene right now, as all of a sudden,

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[SPEAKER_00]: to be, I don't know if he's rumored to be traded to the warriors, but the warriors are rumored to kind of be heavily in this mix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This one doesn't feel real because we've been talking about Janice for several years now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the time has come where he's finally maybe okay with being traded.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Brian and I are going to talk about

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[SPEAKER_00]: probably for most of the show we're going to talk about this uh... yawness scenario but we also have some interesting topics as it relates to women's basketball we're going to talk about page and catelyn um... as i've been watching some unrivaled and just so impressed with with page and also at the end we'll talk a little bit about women's college hoop so uh... i guess we might as well just get going with this warriors in the

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[SPEAKER_00]: When did you realize that this Yana stuff was actually real and not just warriors fans making up rumors because we're the we're fans of the warriors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was kind of just doing the like the mental math myself of like, okay, so here are the teams that are interested and what do their offers look like?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like, you know, you've been hearing that the lawyers have like a relatively whatever offer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think when you look in the scope of the league, they do kind of have like an offer that's kind of middle, middle tier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when you think about the interested teams,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the warriors have one of the better offers, and so when I started to see here are the interesting teams, here are the reported teams that may be on his link to, I kind of felt like the warriors offer was a little bit better than than what I had initially thought because of, you know, New York doesn't have their picks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, those were gone in the Mikhail Bridges deal, you know, Minnesota has been, I kind of don't know exactly where those picks are, but I know there was a lot in the Rudy go bare deal, I know they kind of

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[SPEAKER_01]: have messed around with some even to get Rob dilling him when they drafted him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure they sent out a first a later first for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, it's just the warriors have their own firsts and the only first they don't have is a 2030 first that they sent over in the Jordan pool for Chris Paul deal, but that was a protected like 20 that it's protected from one from pick one to 20 if they land in there, they keep the 2030 pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think once I just realized like, hey, this is one of the better offers out of the interest of teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that there's a good chance if this guy goes to the bucks for an office and says that he wants to be with the lawyers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wants to go to the lawyers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a good shot that could happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why are some of these other teams not interested though?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is my

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very well, be interested, but they have a good, they have a good team already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if they were not, if they wanted to keep this thing going, they didn't have to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, teams like San Antonio seem to me like an easy one, because they also have younger pieces, but they're not in the mix, and yet

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[SPEAKER_00]: The oldest, if what seems like the oldest team in the NBA in the Warriors, because they've set themselves up in this way where they didn't make some deals that were rumored to be made, and they did save these picks like they're all of a sudden in the mix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you look at the package of players that the Warriors have,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't seem that special, like I'm still trying to convince myself why the bucks would be interested in this package specifically because let's say that you get all of these first rounders from the warriors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If Yannis is on the warriors around this time, it probably means that they're not going to be lottery selection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what do you think the reason is?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this a

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[SPEAKER_00]: um

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Milwaukee just hearing the booze from the crowd, like what do you think the reason is for all the stuff happening right now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a lot of reasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you look at some of these moves where trade deadline or off season, where a team essentially just forfits all of their future draft capital for one big start player, can you think of a recent time where that worked?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the team that forfitted all the draft capital,

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[SPEAKER_01]: like contending like even two to three years after that, like I think about Kevin Durant to Brooklyn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that Brooklyn Nets didn't give up much to get him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a D-Lo like sign and trade, but they got hard in which they gave up all their picks for that thing falls on its face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 76ers getting hard and then trading a lot of picks, that falls on its face, Kevin Durant going to Phoenix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then going to Houston, like all these picks just being shifted around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The next acquiring McHell bridges for all their draft assets, like all that stuff happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: not one championship has come out of a team basically forefitting all their draft picks and recent years and I think the bucks could be betting on the warriors falling flat on their face because you know there are going to be some picks that are presumably in a post-step era you know what of Steph's gone and Janis is kind of back in this unhappy position and then he requests a trade to a different team and then the warriors you know up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: are left without any superstars and their like picks for two to three years are owed to Milwaukee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like maybe that's what they're betting on because I think that's fair to us like this really hasn't worked, you know, where you basically forfeit your entire draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: four chest for one specific player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that I think San Antonio and Oklahoma City aren't interested.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, okay, see is more valid to not be interested because they want to title and they feel like they could do it again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for a team like San Antonio not to be interested, I think that's going to be a mistake in years to come because, you know, we've seen it from the two timeline era where you feel like you have this generate player, like you should pack it and try to go get a championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that Victor, you know, with those resemble is in the same age range of a Dylan Harper of a Stefan castle, so it can make sense to kind of watch those guys grow together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Hellman, Yannis is one of the top five to seven players and you team that up with Victor Wembe and Yannis like Holy Crud, like, to me, I don't think they would have to give up as much as some of these other teams and still acquire Yannis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if the fact that they're not interested to me, I feel like that stake on their end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the attractive thing now, there's no, there's no certainty that this gets done at the trade deadline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Milwaukee specifically has came out publicly and said that they're open for doing business, but that's because there is a deadline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes that's

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[SPEAKER_00]: teams like the warriors who don't have the leverage may end up giving up more than than they necessarily want to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why you do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This thing could go all the way until the summer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yannis has already out for the next month at least.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by July, we go through this again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The warriors are kind of sitting in a good position in either scenario, because right now, if they want to make that trade right now, they have the cap specifically figured out to where it doesn't have to be a three-team trade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be just them, and they have the salaries to make it work, and like you said, they have all of those picks to make it work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if Milwaukee was like, we need to do it now,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only negative for the warriors would be if Yannis is like, I'm not sure that I'm the extension.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If that is the case in the warriors, I have to be out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there would be no reason to do that trade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unless the idea is well, he's with us for a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's let Steph talk to him and get him acquainted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then what happens if something like Steph got injured, then there's no certainty that Yannis would want to be here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In July, you have a very similar scenario, though other teams, you would allow other teams to better prepare themselves to make a July trade, like I know the, um, the mix specifically do not have the picks that would be entertaining for Milwaukee, but by this deadline, if they wanted to trade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh one of their big players to get some picks back to set up this future uh opportunity in the summer they could definitely do something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see why they do that in a year where they are top two in the east.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like just to basically say well you know I guess we'll give up one of our best players and try again in the summer like they're you know it's a very weak eastern conference they're top two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard that on the plus minus podcast too but maybe

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the reason to do it would be because you don't really think your team is that good, because I'm looking at my fantasy team in Cat is just playing terrible like every game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, but you're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be, if you're a Nick's fan and you're like, oh my gosh, like, work, trying to,

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[SPEAKER_00]: create this scenario where in the summer we could possibly trade for this guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't always work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're right about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like the warriors are in this interesting position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, when we were kind of joking about this a couple weeks ago, my whole thought was like, they don't even have the, they don't have the attractive guys like, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: basketball knows what Moses Moody is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be a dependable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: depth piece and he's got to play with a specific kind of offensive threat for him to be successful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Brandon Pajemski, whether or not he would be in this deal, we've seen years of Brandon Pajemski.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's probably better suited for like a sixth man off the bench like if he's

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'm not, I'm not sure the, I'm not sure any of the other players who would be attractive to teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You wouldn't trade for the Anthony Milton because the Anthony Milton has a player option.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he, like, he kind of controls his own destiny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a team is not going to want to trade for him with the expectation that he plays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's, it is interesting because like, I look at the warriors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What the warriors could trade and I look at those guys on this team and I'm like man if I was another to you I wouldn't trade for these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean you trade for the idea of Jonathan Kominga You know, the guy that I would trade for is some gizontos, but he's got you know He's gonna got much much trade value, but it's just because he's he's like you're you're do everything kind of player He's diving on the floor in in meaningless games and stuff, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it is very interesting to see how well they are set up for this and you have to kind of maybe hat tip one Mike Dunlavy for not pulling the trigger on other deals and maybe he wasn't even in the cat bird seat for those deals for Laurie and for PG and guys like that where they were like, yeah, we could do this, but then if the opportunity does arise for Janice, then we're not ready for that and they're seemingly ready for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They doesn't mean they're going to get him, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just so interesting how this thing has played out because I just never expected them to be in the mix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now they're one of the top three or four teams that are named to be in the mix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you don't win any awards for just being in the mix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ask the giants, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've been top two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It feel like that was the story for the past like decade and the Bryce Harper stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, they are there, and this is something that I feel like since I started even listening to plus minus, you know, I think it was like around COVID and I was just like, why am I not listening to lawyers podcast and start listening to plus minus this has been a conversation since then it's one of the first things I remember listening to is them talking about the potential of the lawyers trying to be in the mix for a yonna steel then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they've been planning the tea leaves, not just plus minus, but they plus minus has been basically on the trail of what the warriors have done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, Steph and Janus, Steph, Janus going to Steph's all star event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this past February.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's been a conversation, or at least it feels like it's something that they've anticipated for this long, but yeah, they need to make it happen, or else what's the point?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if it feels like it all kind of relies,

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[SPEAKER_01]: on this because if this doesn't happen,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's, do you have no shot at winning the title this year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You go into the off season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, I think right now, they're a big fish and a small pond trying to get yawness in the off season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're like a medium-sized fish and like a big pond trying to get yawness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you probably don't, your best chance to get him is right now and you don't get him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the team, you know, is gonna suck, play in, just bounce, get bounced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then going into next year, you have a Jimmy that's coming back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you just, I don't know, it's just,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you feel like the season was dead and I even threw out the honest thing last podcast or two podcasts to go has just like a yeah the season's dead unless this crazy thing happens and y'all says he wants to go to the warriors tomorrow what feels like we're kind of closer to that so um it does feel like it's I don't know what's the term for like just like they they got thrown another

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, the opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it feels like it's something that they should have never gotten.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's like, you know, I think that if they get Yannis, I think, I think there are a serious team, like top three team in the West, in my opinion, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to win the whole thing because Bill Simmons just did a podcast with Tim Legler basically about the idea of the parody and the league and he just feels like anyone could be anyone and it feels like there's really no solidified contender and I know Yannis is out for four to six weeks but it feels like the warriors can kind of flow a little bit and then once then get him back and stride for this contending finals push because you know okay see is not looking like the juggernaut we thought they were and it feels like you know I'm still looking pretty good though by the way

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[SPEAKER_01]: correct correct but it's not that 73 and 9 you know that that they started off the year to be But hell with the honest it looks like it would be a lot easier to beat them than without

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, uh, I wanted to showcase a comment from Frankie K said the stars aligned and Yannis became available while Steph still dropping 28 points of game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This potentially is exactly the reason they've been conservative with their picks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They need to go all in and I think what he means is every pick possible that you can trade you, you should make it available.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I believe it's for first and one swap because I thought it was going to be more

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because the lawyers can offer more swabs, but if Milwaukee doesn't own their pick, then they can't swap anything because Milwaukee doesn't have their own pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think the most draft capital they can offer is for unprotecteds or three unprotecteds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they might be able to offer that 2020.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Favorable protection, which is one through 20 protected, which is would convey in Milwaukee's favor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, oh, I mean, maybe not, but then the one swap because Milwaukee's picks are like with Portland with Atlanta with New Orleans, so the other picks are low are all over the place so this is the alternate kind of what you said you said yourself up for you honest the idea of you honest and if you don't get him at this deadline and he is not traded.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You cannot do anything to improve this team because you've got to save everything for the summer unless you know for sure that he's not interested.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think you still bet that the idea that maybe, you know, maybe Steph becomes the the best person to actually network with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now that Yannis is open and now that this is a possibility, I think the idea of

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[SPEAKER_00]: Michael Porter Jr. and Tray Murphy and trading comming a to get something to save this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's out the door.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of think the warriors just play with what they got, which probably means they're in the play in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then if you think about it, that's just more tread on Steph's tires.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if the idea is to get Yannas for next year,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to risk all the miles on staff wasting it on a season where you were a 8th or 9th, you know, first round demolition by by the the thunder I don't know if you want to do that like that's the interesting thing is if they go all in for you honest this summer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are the warriors do for this year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't imagine steps like, yeah, I'll just sit for the second half of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's gonna happen, but there is that risk, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because what we saw a couple weeks ago was Jimmy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jimmy showed that when you play with a little bit of fire with this age, that could happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So do you play with that same fire with Stefan Dreyman?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially if Dreyman is one of the people that could go in the deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that isn't gonna be an interesting thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I almost wonder if they don't make this trade next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if the season is just lost and it's everything all the chips in in the summer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm a Sam S. Vendiori tweeted like if you don't get Janis by this week, I think you should move on and go for someone else because, you know, that that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Potential presents itself with you don't get yannis by the deadline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then so then you're kind of repositioning repositioning yourself for him in the off season between now and then yeah, things can happen someone could get injured knock on wood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then what about the potential that you don't land them in the off season and then you just roll it out with a team that felt like it was still a move and a half away from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, being a true contender and then, you know, melton goes into the off season as a you said he has a player option.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll probably decline that one a sign for more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just it feels like a coming a thing where it's like, you know, we've been kind of like, you know, waiting and waiting and waiting for the right deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it feels like

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[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like this has been where as of where we are right now, it feels like he has made the right call to preserve coming up for a trade like this, it feels like that's the correct move right now, but imagine if nothing happens, then like I said, you're the giants and and you've you've positioned yourself to be in the talks, you've positioned yourself for it to all work in theory, but what if it doesn't happen, then it's just a big fat L.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, in the summer, if you strike out on you on us, what you do have, and you haven't traded coming yet, you trade him in the offseason and hope that his his market is a little bit better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's open hope with that guy though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just hope, hope, hope, hope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, that that's the other thing is he's got to play, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about this last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the way to improve his trade value is for him to play and for him to play well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the idea is like, okay, we struck out on your honest, now let's use coming up and trying get something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have whatever this first round pick is going to be, so whether that's player or trade, and you're bringing Jimmy Butler back late in Iraq, you know, a year from now next year, theoretically,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, you add a couple of pieces and you chase it again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is much different from the opportunity to grab Janis and possibly like you said being the top three or top four in the mix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're with the alternate scenario.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're back to what they were this year, which is fighting for, you know, the six, seven, eight spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is but that is that alternate scenario is just kind of like what this year was but just a year in the future so I don't think it's necessarily that bad but I don't know that I would be the needy team this deadline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with the idea that Yannis has not been traded.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if Yannis has traded at the deadline, then they can make some decisions on what they want to do because the one that they are chasing is gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the alternative is like, okay, now that was a pipe dream, and now we have to be realistic about what this team is today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of feel like it's not okay if if they go into the off season and nothing has happened just because I don't know step steps what and how old the stuff 38

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think Steph would want, though?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think Steph would want to make a trade for a Michael Porter Jr. right now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's him, M.P.J.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dramon, Vying for an eight seed, or would Steph be okay going like, okay, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That version of whatever this is, it's not great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we will push our chips in for the summer and hope and maybe I can do some,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can I can host some some gentlemen's cut parties for Janice, you know, maybe I can cut him in on a piece of gentlemen's cut and and and and and maybe you you trust that he can do some networking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just what I would hate for them to do is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: make a decision now that would affect the summer because you never know what's going to happen at that point there are still what I would hate what would I would hate more is for them not to make a decision and then nothing happens in the summer right that's the word like I said what happens in the summer would be whatever they were going to do right now it's just pushed out six months ira's or five months

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[SPEAKER_01]: maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I sometimes feel like you can get away with better deals at the deadline then you can in the summer just because it's like everyone's kind of scrambling and you know, everything feels like high stakes so maybe a team is willing to accept less but what they think in their mind isn't less.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They think that that's what the value of the player is and you can get away with some swindles like look at the Jimmy thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was, you know, it doesn't leave you was able to pull that off last trade deadline and that feels like

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[SPEAKER_01]: one of the best trades in warrior history that's since I've been following, and I know nothing's come out of it, but what they gave up for what they got and the production of what they got, like it, I think, you know, really home run of a trade there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, no, I don't know, I think the Jimmy Butler injury has complicated absolutely everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It may have complicated it,

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[SPEAKER_00]: been some weird blessing in disguise with the timing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is all if they get yannas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a blessing if they get yannas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they better get this guy because if they don't get them, then it's just a lost season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we said, I said in the last podcast, they're kind of in this weird momentum right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know they haven't played like the most amazing teams, but like dude, our orphan and dream on look pretty good next to each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like a magic of Jimmy was the three and that's enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At least defensively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Defensively would be not very offensively jermons to look like German cannot hit a free man by the way, I don't want to post

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[SPEAKER_00]: Arnold had basically saying the exact thing that needs to happen here for this to for it to be a reality, which is Arnold says, you honestly need to speak up and force his way to go and state.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise, I think the bucks wait for some or to see better offers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that is the whole thing here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is nobody, you know, you know, you know, you honestly isn't showing his cards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we need as

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know someone who works at TMZ, one Branson work, we need him to show up somewhere with a microphone and just ask you on is where do you want to play and see if you want to see if you want to see if someone TMZ style needs to figure out where he wants to go because he hasn't really said anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't showed his cards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was the New York thing that that had come out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But otherwise the only thing that we know is

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[SPEAKER_00]: For one all star game Steph drafted him with this first pick like that's really all we know and so that's what we're basing all of the stuff on is just this whatever this relationship is but His wife's from Fresno.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that better for us?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was that better for LA?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's better for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the other thing about this is, you know, what he really wants, obviously, what the, the cards that Janice is playing is because he, he, wherever he goes, he's going to want to sign for big money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but here's it, you know, we, we are talking about a fantasy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a fantasy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no real reality in this yet, but this is kind of what we were thinking back in the

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[SPEAKER_00]: back then like all summer before free agency started we just be talking about Katie in the possibility of Katie coming so it's it's worth talking about it it's fun talking about it it doesn't mean that it's it's a it's a done deal if you had your brothers and Milwaukee was like

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[SPEAKER_00]: or you want to trade as dream on will make either of them work you personally as a basketball fan as a warriors fan would you rather trade dream on or would you rather trade Jimmy I'd rather trade Jimmy really I didn't expect you to say that well if they were held it's different if they were healthy but I think they're still a shot at this year

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[SPEAKER_01]: making some serious noise in the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, if Jimmy Butler's not playing, then and you just get Yannison stuff, like it's still a team that, well, now if you don't have, you don't have Jimmy, you don't have Yannison for four to six weeks, then that becomes a team with Steph and whoever's left over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because if you do Dreyman, you have to do Dreyman, Kaminga, Moody, Pod, like it feels like you have to do much more players to get to the money, because Jimmy matches Yannison's contract exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but you know, dream on you have to add some stuff to get there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're presumably left with Steph Quinton post will Richard Gies Santos and the NASA Center to Compose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're starting line up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's no Jimmy for the year and no Janice for four to six weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're just kind of giving up the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas on the inverse, if it's just Janice coming gun and pods, you know, you're still left with a couple more guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I heard them talking about this on plus minus today, and you know, well, it felt like last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It felt like last year, this was like similar noise with the Kevin Durant stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It felt like we were getting Kevin Durant last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we were up until the point where he was like, if I don't want to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the whole year's, like, he's respected that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I Katie said after the fact on a podcast or something that I forget is what the, the dream on show, but he was just like, if you guys trade for me, you would have traded all your guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would have gotten there, it would have been me and and stuff and who else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how he's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not respecting guis Santos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, 80.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love 80 knows ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're supposed to know ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got no key.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think if you trade Dramon, that is kind of like, you're, you're, I bring up the Kevin Durant thing because if you trade Dramon and have to package all these players, then it's kind of like, okay, Yannis is coming to play with who, you know, you're the only Jimmy mostly because of the salary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You give up less players and you can still somewhat compete for this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's very interesting, though, a 2027 lineup of Jimmy Yanis and Steph is even though that is very old still that is very enticing and then I can see what you'd bet on is I don't know what the salary cap would look like with those three contracts on the books.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It have to be these guys coming to take nothing to try and like championship chase.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely a step in Jimmy and Janice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Frankie makes a great point in the chat now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm trusting Frankie's knowledge of NBA salary cap stuff here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Frankie says that if Janice is traded before the deadline, he can sign an extension this fall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if he's if he's

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he waits until the off season, he has to wait six months after the season ends in order to sign that extension.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said a lot can happen because of his injury, a history that he may want to lock in the money sooner than later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's not that big of a time frame in order to do that, but he has had some of these like lingering, like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: injuries and he is a freak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His nickname is the freak, but is we haven't seen, you know, we've seen poor Zingus as the unicorn and him breakdown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't seen Yannis fully breakdown, but you know, those were things to think about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're an NBA team and Yannis is one of the

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[SPEAKER_00]: then you kind of have to put your chips in and you take that risk and just hope that your medical team and Rick Selbrini and his conditioning and his strength and conditioning people like, you know, have a good idea of what young the next five yawness years are going to look like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So because he has been playing for a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he's been playing for quite a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So and playing at a high level, by the way, for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is a fun exercise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love talking about this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like talking about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we we kind of joked about it the last couple weeks, but we joked about the Jimmy thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when you start to put the puzzle pieces together,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does look like there is some opportunity, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you were to, I don't know what the percentage is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Minnesota or Milwaukee holds the leverage until Janice makes it a point that, you know, you need to do something now, uh, but, uh, yeah, you know, it's a fun thing to think about, but it still feels a little unlikely, I would say, at least at this point heading into next week, which is the trade deadline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have it at like, I think I said like 20% is just like a number to me, it's like, you know, way below 50, but it's not at zero.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just went with 20% it's still, yeah, still very unlikely, but, you know, it's a one in five chance, I guess, maybe it should be 25% because there's four interested teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a Milwaukee guy and he creates all of this for nothing and all of these team gets so excited and then he just did it to troll the NBA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's still the most likely, you know, post-trade deadline situation, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that he stays with Milwaukee?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who would he stay for like it like what promises would have to be made by the bucks to say hey We are locking you in and we're gonna make this out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like I mean he's got to be like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kyle Coosman like I'm Ryan Rollins is playing well like but he's a young guy but that's like not necessarily a pillar to a championship team though he's he could be a really good you know sixth the seventh guy I think he's pretty playing like a starter but he's probably better off like in that pod's role that I was talking about but like I'm trying to think of like what could Milwaukee even do to save this situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have no clue because I was looking I was thinking like where does this family live again and I had remembered I saw a report in the offseason that they moved permanently to Athens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And his children.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like I guess there's no like family reason to stay in Milwaukee kind of like how damn when he got traded to Milwaukee was you know his kids and and.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they were ever married, but the mother of his children stayed in Portland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that was like a thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was kind of getting depressed that he wasn't always seen as kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he goes back to Portland for Milwaukee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't sound like that's the case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless they got some the owner just set up some private jet direct Milwaukee to Athens, Greece.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The situation, but no, I mean, maybe it's just, you know, there's something to be said about just being as

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure he can, you know, get whatever he wants and go where everyone wants in that city.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone loves him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he'll, he can go down as the greatest player in Milwaukee history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Goldenstein, you know, there's, there's a, there's a man named Lu Alcindor, aka Karimad Diljabar who want a championship in Milwaukee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as they each won one, there's three, like Oscar Robertson, you know, then then Karim wanted to bail out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, yeah, no, I think I think that's all I was gonna say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so yeah, we're gonna be talking about this next week as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a really important thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, the Warriors just putting themselves in this position, it shows you still how much this franchise means to the entire NBA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and and so we'll keep an eye on it for next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to switch gears and we're going to talk a little bit of women's who pair for people who don't know this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We also Golden State whoop is not just about the Golden State warriors at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is also about the Golden State valkers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We do talk about women's basketball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to switch gears.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk some WMBA probably not a ton of valks but also a little bit of women's college whoop as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, the pod hollow side of this podcast, as I was watching unrivaled though, I'm a little behind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've not watched my missed the last two games of my missed last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned how impressed I am with page beckers so much so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was going to ask your brother to, you know, he, he understands all all the bedding and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I might put a few dollars, a few.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't know how much, but on a post the possibility of page being the MVP of next season in the WMBA, you know, out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, you have the, the revenge of Nefisa Collier that that's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's going to come back with a crazy vengeance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, Asia Wilson, Caitlin's going to be back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Page would have to get that Dallas team into the playoffs and more in order to do anything there, but I'm just, I'm so impressed watching her play basketball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the way she plays basketball is kind of like, I would compare her and Kate, so we're going to talk about Caitlyn Clark too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would compare page.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to like CP3, and I would compare Katelyn to Steph a little bit, just because of the way that they get into their offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you were to choose, both of them are young, pages actually like a, is page a year older than Katelyn?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they're the same draft class.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm not draft class, but they're the same high school same high page pages page, page data year longer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who would you want more now you would you would take either of them because they're both Great prospects and really good players already But if you were to think about your basketball team and maybe even for for the Valkyries Like which player would you want more between page and Caitlyn because I think the overall Casual WNBA fan would go of course you take Caitlyn like she's so famous and she shoots from the logo and all that stuff But I don't know if that's the right answer

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of feel like there maybe isn't the most perfect right answer right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there might be a little bit of like we didn't see Caitlyn at all last year, so Paige's game is more fresh on our minds, but I think Paige is more of a complete game than Caitlyn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Caitlyn is, you know, not to limit as great up a player as she is, but she takes deep threes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's a great passer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but it kind of feels like there are ways to stop her and I've kind of felt like that since she got in the league, but honestly no one could really stop her that well in the league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It took until me watching Veronica Burton guard her and I was like, that's what I would be doing this whole time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why wasn't anyone else being able to do that and Veronica's just like, you know, pretty sturdy, like pretty strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: center of gravity and I feel like she was able to kind of limit Caitlin where I haven't seen page.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you can stop pagebackers like ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care who you put on her like I think she just always has the next move in her bag to go to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She just doesn't have that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, deep range that page had, I mean, sorry, that Caitlin has.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think there's a right answer right now, but I do agree with you that every single person who, you know, doesn't follow the sport would go Caitlin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they might not even be wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think since we watch it, and we see like page can score from all three levels with ease.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think Caitlin has all three levels at the same way that page does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had this discussion on the no-off season podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was during the season, by the way, it was almost like who had the better rookie season, Paige or Caitlyn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And looking up the numbers, they both averaged 19.2 points in their rookie season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Katelyn had 8.4 assists to pages 5.4.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Katelyn had 5.7 rebounds to pages 3.9.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Page shot better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Katelyn shot a little bit better from 3 and Katelyn shot a little bit better from the line, but they're both excellent for each of those shooters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess the difference is, is Katelyn had,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alia Boston had a way better team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she was able to take that team and and and get very close to the to the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She made the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That first year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, her first year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they lost two out of three to Connecticut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what directs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then pages first year, they were not very good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't honestly still puzzles me how they, you know, our reggae wasn't able to cook the way that a reggae usually cooks with a player who could play off the ball like page.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like a, you know, Caitlyn had Alia and Kelsey Mitchell and Paige had a riqueh who in theory like a riqueh at the time was maybe the best player out of the three, but just a riqueh couldn't put it together in a way that I thought she'd be able to considering page isn't like a

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, a, like she doesn't need to have the ball to be impactful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas, you know, if she played on Caitlyn's, if you're reggae played on Caitlyn's team, like Caitlyn needs the ball, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She needs to do her side steps, her shoot from the shoot from deep, but also, she's like, like, step, say, she is a threat off the ball as well, because, you know, she catches the ball and she can put a shot so they have to stay attached her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, just puzzled me how a reggae was enabled to put it together with Paige because I felt like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That style wouldn't work together and it didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they sucked kind of because of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like now Dallas does have the first pick in this year's draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who is so, you know, if it isn't our fam probably closer to a malonga season where you see some signs, but I don't know if people are expecting our fam to immediately contribute

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you drafted an AC foot instead, and that would make things very interesting and tell us, like you could see like, oh my gosh, one of the best backwards in the legal ready with two players like that, I do think that page needs a big though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you had the Alia Boston comparison in Dallas, and you have that, you can play that pick and roll game like Caitlin and Alia plays

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[SPEAKER_00]: the way that they do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that would be awesome for her, but the also the idea like, I mean, AZ fund is just like right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be interesting to see who they take.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess the thing when when I when I think about both players and again, I'm watching a lot of page in this unrivaled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I you know, I didn't watch all the Dallas games last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I watched when she played the

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was this moment where Cameron Brink, by the way, did you see Cameron Brink dunk today?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was this moment in one of the games that I was watching the missed against pages team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Cameron Brink swatted somebody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the ball did not go out of bounds, and Cam was thinking the ball was going out of bounds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she swats it, and she goes out of bounds, and she's just celebrating, almost to the point of standing over the person who she had blocked, I forget who she blocked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And...

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[SPEAKER_00]: page is like waiting for her to get the ball so that they can go back the other way and cam celebrating and like standing over and so then at the time out or at the ball stop like page went over there and was like dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: great play, but you need to get the ball because that's a layup for us, you know, we're going on the other side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was almost like, you know, she's like a mini coach out there as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think she kind of organizes things and maybe holds her emotions a little bit better than Caitlyn does because you see Caitlyn and Caitlyn is just so fiery on the court.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just ready to like complain to refs and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it seems like page is style is a little bit less about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you are thinking of who you want your point guard to be, you probably want them to be a little bit more like page to control the game, to be that adult handling the basketball in the room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You see Caitlin's fiery side and she just bombs like four threes in a row and you're up by ten and and so that you know there is a nice little balance in both players it's going to be fascinating to see Next year because I think they open up the season against each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the first game of the season for both of their teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then we haven't even talked about the person who is kind of waiting for another year or two to just be drafted and wants to make this a three person young, point guard race with a juju, that's going to be fascinating too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just thought it was, I thought it was a fun thing to think about this whole page versus Caitlin thing, but yeah, both of them, awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be so great to be able to watch both of these players so young and to their careers because they're

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had a question for you before we get out of here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've been watching some college hoop and I asked you to think of if Yukon does not win and Yukon looks like unstoppable right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they look like they're going to blow through everybody like they did last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: To beat Yukon this year, what team do you think is best situated, maybe has the best personnel, maybe plays the best style, to beat Yukon for the championship, is there a team out there that you see that could beat Yukon?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it's got to be a team that has a reliable inside presence with scoring because I want to say UCLA, but I feel like when UCLA can't shoot three is like you'll see that, you know, they're they're beatable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of the same with South Carolina, like I know they have

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, Olivia Edwards, but if she's not like the dominant post score that like Camilla Cardoso or Leo Boston was in years past, for South Carolina, and then on Texas's side, they have former Arizona Wildcat, Breya Cunningham, and I'm forgetting the other woman's name on the team that comes into back her up, but I feel like

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of want to go with I kind of want to go with UCLA because I know they have Lauren Beds, but I don't know we saw we saw this you can't team kind of take care of business against that UCLA team, but UCLA has like six players who are going to be in the WMBA, like within the next two years, if not this year, like they have a lot of players who are going to get drafted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you just think that that would be the team that can match up against them, but this, you know, this

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe four, five team after Yukon being Texas, South Carolina, UCLA, LSU, and like Vanderbilt has had a really good year too, I mean, I don't think any of those teams can do it, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: because they've, but they've all kind of beat each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think, I forget who beat, we're at watching the Thanksgiving games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I forget who beat UCLA if it was South Carolina or Texas, but then I think South Carolina has beaten Texas, and vice versa, Vanderbilt beat South Carolina, Texas beat Vanderbilt or something, LSU beat Texas, like everyone's kind of beaten each other in that little like two through five or two through six, but you can't still undefeated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, I actually think Ellis, you could be sneaky and kick out one of those UCLA South Carolina Texas teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I would probably bet on them kicking out Texas, but Ellis, you was really talented at that point guard shooting guard, small forward position, and there's really no real small forward on that team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like Michaela Williams, Flage A and Malaysia full while they are all guards in my opinion, but just they're really talented and freshman Grace Knox is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think, yeah, I would probably go,

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[SPEAKER_01]: UCLA, Yukon, South Carolina, LSU as my final four at this current moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we are nearing the end of January.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And March Madness is like a month and a half away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and we'll have our Golden State hoops, women's bracket for folks to play against us with too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that'll be fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, next week we'll figure out when we come back but we have to come back for the Yana stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just gonna keep

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[SPEAKER_00]: getting bigger and bigger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It felt like this week compared to last week, it went from like on the new scale in the Bay Area.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a four and a half or a five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the 49ers lost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, the giants, the giants picked up by Harrison Bader, kind of a blip.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the second that Yonna stuff came out is like a 10 for the worst back in the area, which was awesome for the awesome for this podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so we'll be back next week for Brie by the extra, she should say shout out to the folks who jumped in Frankie K.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Arnold, and we also had someone called Yeshua my God who had some fantasy creation of a team that they wanted to see the warriors make.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But thanks for chiming in and hanging out with us in the chat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Before I, I am WG, we will see you when we see you peace out.